Re: trades - we'd need to get picks + expiring contracts back for KG or Ray...nobody is going to trade a young stud for those guys, and the salaries need to match up (otherwise, I'd say just trade them for 1st round picks). I think KG is actually more valuable than Ray as a player (still an elite defender, and quietly having a pretty nice season on offense), but the salary match-up problem is the issue. Honestly, if we could get picks and expiring contracts back for Ray/KG, I'd trade them...partly because the only teams interested in those guys would be contenders, anyway (so we send them to good spots for them).