Rondo is a problem and is the problem

[ejk3489]

The fact is, the league doesn't view Rondo with the blind idolatry of this board.

They see a spoiled, selfish, immature player capable of a random act such as last night when his club needs him, not a temper tantrum.

I am extremely disappointed that Wyc hasn't fined him on top of the suspension, and even more disappointed that the club is going to coddle this selfishness by allowing Rondo to tag along for his buddy's birthday party in OKC, the guy whose trade caused him to pout away half of a season last year.

Yes, how dare Rondo celebrate his birthday.

And the rehash of Rondo last season is quite amusing. The night Rondo found out Perk was traded he put up 19/15/6 and averaged 11pts/12ast/4.5rbs the first 7 games(6 of them wins) after Perkins was gone.

He no doubt was inconsistent for much of the second half of the season, but it was clearly because of injuries, not because he was "pouting" the loss of his friend. I think he deserves a little bit more credit than that.

[GrandTheftRondo]

Rondo's out tonight so I'm sure we're winning...by double digits probably, right?

(goes to look at score)


Oh.

[crafty213]

The offense is really clicking w/o Rondo tonight. 

[BballTim]

The fact is, the league doesn't view Rondo with the blind idolatry of this board.

They see a spoiled, selfish, immature player capable of a random act such as last night when his club needs him, not a temper tantrum.

  The league, unlike some of the posters here, is aware that behavior much worse than Rondo's goes on on a regular basis, and doesn't act like this is the worst thing they've ever seen. I don't think PP got anywhere near this much criticism last year after getting tossed from a playoff game.

[get_banners]

the game tonight shows just how much rondo hurts us...oh wait...

[tenn_smoothie]

KG's play with and without Rondo has held pretty steady. Pierce has just been wildly inconsistent all year and Ray started crattering after a hot start once teams realized how easy it was to deny him the ball.

Rondo isn't the problem, he's just not the solution that we hoped for offensively. Its hard to tell whether its his lack of growth or the decaying parts around him that have held this team's offense stagnant.

Defensively the team can still bring it most nights with KG there, but now the old legs of KG/Pierce/Allen/O'Neal can't secure enough rebounds to finish off excellent defensive work initially.

excellent analysis.

we are sooooooooo painful to watch because everything takes so much effort -

play tough, intense defense for 20 seconds only to watch it go to waste with yet another offensive rebound, or

run our half-court patterns to exhaustion only to watch our opponents sag off Rondo into an already congested lane and then have to watch Pierce force up some off-the-dribble fading jumper from 18' or, better yet, drive a clogged lane and try to force an interior pass to Oneal or Wilcox and watch it get deflected and our opponent is off and running

painful, painful, painful

[goCeltics]

lucky we don't have selfish rondo playing against the mavs, he wasn't able to hog the ball away from paul and allen, cos they filling it up without him out there.

[Swoopz]

The fact is, the league doesn't view Rondo with the blind idolatry of this board.

It's ironic how you call others blind. I guess your post does have some truth in it.

[ejk3489]

Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_SI
If there's a bright spot to another depressing Boston loss, perhaps this might end the silly "better without Rondo" talking head nonsense

Unfortunately I don't think this game tonight will stop people from making that ridiculous assumption again...

[OsirusCeltics]

Rondz is not the problem..He's playing by himself.

Yupp he was was "playing by himself" when he was on the bench injured while the Celtics won 9 of 10

[BballTim]

Rondz is not the problem..He's playing by himself.

Yupp he was was "playing by himself" when he was on the bench injured while the Celtics won 9 of 10

  The Celts are 6-4 without Rondo.

[OsirusCeltics]

We offered him up for Westbrook and were turned down.  That deal was heavily reported.  The year before it was for Steph Curry; that was a rumor that was not as heavily reported.

Because every rumor is true, the deli guy told me so.

I don't buy a lot of trade rumors, the CP3 one I buy. But the Westbrook one, the Curry one, and the Stuckey/Rip/Prince for Ray/Rondo (or whatever it was) just never struck me as being all that solid.

LOL at selectively wanting to believe the rumors.  Just like you can selectively believe all the good Rondo does and dimiss all the negative.

Haha omg thank you TP

[Celtics4ever]

Yeah, Lord knows that triple double killed us last night.   It darn near cost us the game.  The problem is we are old and play to the level of our opponents not Rondo.

For the record we are 275- 169 with Rondo so all that 6-4 stuff is crap and blaming him for others getting old.  Since he has been a Celtic we have won .61% of the games we have played since 2006.  It is true that the big three is responsible for most of this I would say but it is also true that they are responsible for the decline too.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

NASH over Rondo..hahahah, glad you don't run our team...couldn't you possibly find someone a little OLDER....? Like i said before, there isn't ANY PG in the league that can make pp, kg, and ray run with them....CP3, He LEFT his team because they weren't WITH IT...you think he could all of a sudden make these guys younger, faster...? I don't. You are looking at the wrong end of the horse..!

[Sketch5]

I don't think he's the problem. Its the fact the team doesn't want to run  anymore. He has said him self that he's best in the fast break, but if the team doesn't rebound and get out in front how can they get his best effort.

Wilcox runs and you see what happens, Peirce and Allen trail (All the time) and what happens, usually nothing good. Ray I get trailing, but Peirce has fallen in love with the 3 and has gotten back to the lazy Paul that Doc use to bench.

KG runs, but not as well as he use to. Green ran last season and that work really well.

The way the NBA is going its going to look more like how the Heat are playing and thats some REALLY old school Tommy type ball. Who wouldn't want Rondo leading that in a leauge FULL of Shooters. Its nice to have that one guy that doesn't need to shoot all the time to be happy.