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Re: The blame of Rondo is getting rediculous..
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2012, 09:02:45 AM »

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We gave up 98 points to the Pistons, that is the problem
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Re: The blame of Rondo is getting rediculous..
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2012, 09:06:18 AM »

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We gave up 98 points to the Pistons, that is the problem
We also missed 13 free throws, that really hurt.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting rediculous..
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2012, 09:06:50 AM »

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He didnt have enough help last night bottom line. Also, no KG = average defensive team.

I will say this though.

If Rondo keeps up his scoring aggressiveness, which I love, Doc may have to tweak some of his offensive strategy.

If Rondo can play like this offensively, he can start playing the drive and dish game like LeBron, DRose etc.

Pierce, KG, and Ray are deadly spot up shooters.

Also, wouldnt it be sublime if Rondo developed an effective go to post game before LeBron?

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting rediculous..
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2012, 09:41:40 AM »

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For Rondo supporters, generally what I hear is that Rondo gives the team what it needs, he runs the offense, gets guys involved, hes not asked to.shoot etc etc.

My question for you is are you happy with his play last night? Or does it give you a chance to turn to "Rondo haters" and say, "thats why he shouldn't take over games, because we are better when he is getting other guys involved"

Were you happy with his game or were you mad that he want getting others involved?

  I personally was happy with his game because other then Wilcox no one else played hard.  Pierce was walking up and down the court and hanging out at the 3pt line like he is 45 years old.  The defense was terrible all game long.

  Rondo wasn't even in the game when it was decided.  Pierce was running the offense during a stretch early in the 4th quarter when this game was decided.  He turned the ball over a couple of times and forced a couple of terrible shots.  This led directly to the run that gave the Pistons a lead we would never recover from.  By the time Rondo was reinserted into the game we were down double digits.

  Rondo did all he could do.  Other then Wilcox he got very little help.



I was happy with his offensive game overall. This its something I needed to see for rondo, and granted hes had 2 very favorable match ups the last 2 games but its encouraging.

The people defending rondo are just as bad as the people basing him though. When he doesn't score its "because hes not asked to" when he doesnt get assists its "players werent making shots" when the offense isnt going well its "no one can run with Rondo"

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2012, 09:42:21 AM »

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The supporting cast was the problem last night, not Rondo.  

Not having KG didn't exactly help matters, either.


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Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2012, 09:50:01 AM »

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I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2012, 10:18:19 AM »

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I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

I'm not going to get on rondo for last nights cause who knows what would have happened if he played out the other way. I think there does have to be a balance though. 27 shots is a lot for.anyone.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2012, 10:21:40 AM »

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Allowing Detroit to get to the line at almost double their season average rate and shoot eFG% of .500 ( a full 42 points above their average) is what lost us the game.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2012, 10:25:04 AM »

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Allowing Detroit to get to the line at almost double their season average rate and shoot eFG% of .500 ( a full 42 points above their average) is what lost us the game.
Goes to show the intangible that KG provides with defense and defensive quarterbacking from the back letting people know where they should be and who's coming from what direction.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2012, 10:25:42 AM »

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we got a lot of Rondo haters

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2012, 11:07:38 AM »

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I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

I'm not going to get on rondo for last nights cause who knows what would have happened if he played out the other way. I think there does have to be a balance though. 27 shots is a lot for.anyone.

People are appluading Rondo for his statline last night, but it still lost the game.  If Carmelo goes for 40+ and his team loses everyone calls him a ball hog that only scores and doesn't win.  I see no difference between that and the "star" of the game last night. 

This team was only winning and beating quality teams when Pierce was the go to guy.  Because I don't care how old he is now, he's still the only true All Star caliber player on the C's roster today.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2012, 11:17:52 AM »

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I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

I'm not going to get on rondo for last nights cause who knows what would have happened if he played out the other way. I think there does have to be a balance though. 27 shots is a lot for.anyone.

People are appluading Rondo for his statline last night, but it still lost the game.  If Carmelo goes for 40+ and his team loses everyone calls him a ball hog that only scores and doesn't win.  I see no difference between that and the "star" of the game last night. 

This team was only winning and beating quality teams when Pierce was the go to guy.  Because I don't care how old he is now, he's still the only true All Star caliber player on the C's roster today.

The real problem isnt that Rondo scored an efficient 35 points, it's that he did that in the same framework of an offense that usually calls for him to be a quarterbacking, distributing pg.

If he is going to be the go to scorer, the offense will need some tweaking.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2012, 11:22:14 AM »

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I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

I'm not going to get on rondo for last nights cause who knows what would have happened if he played out the other way. I think there does have to be a balance though. 27 shots is a lot for.anyone.

People are appluading Rondo for his statline last night, but it still lost the game.  If Carmelo goes for 40+ and his team loses everyone calls him a ball hog that only scores and doesn't win.  I see no difference between that and the "star" of the game last night. 

This team was only winning and beating quality teams when Pierce was the go to guy.  Because I don't care how old he is now, he's still the only true All Star caliber player on the C's roster today.
The only difference between last night and the games wehre Pierce carried us was the defensive performance by the team. The C's allowed the Pistons to shoot with an eFG% of .500 and also sent them to the line a bunch. That's not goign to win you many games no mater how your offense performs.

If you want to make the argument that Rondo being agressive offensively undermines our defense, then perhaps the loss can be laid on his feet.

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2012, 11:24:52 AM »

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I don't think we were watching the same game last night.  Rondo had no help at all other than wilcox.  PP / RA were terrible.  How is RA / PP bad wing defense is Rondo's fault?  How are all of PP's forced shots and RA's inability to get open Rondo's fault?
No way last night is completely on him.  oh man...

I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

Re: The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2012, 11:25:25 AM »

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I agree in general Rondo may get to much criticism...but last night was completely on him.  This team can't go without a point guard.  That's his responsibility

I'm not going to get on rondo for last nights cause who knows what would have happened if he played out the other way. I think there does have to be a balance though. 27 shots is a lot for.anyone.

People are appluading Rondo for his statline last night, but it still lost the game.  If Carmelo goes for 40+ and his team loses everyone calls him a ball hog that only scores and doesn't win.  I see no difference between that and the "star" of the game last night. 

This team was only winning and beating quality teams when Pierce was the go to guy.  Because I don't care how old he is now, he's still the only true All Star caliber player on the C's roster today.

When the supporting cast around him is struggling and shooting a poor percentage, what exactly is Rondo supposed to do?  Sit around and twiddle this thumbs while guys like Pierce & Allen are struggling? It's called stepping up and someone has to do it.  They lost but I'm glad that Rondo was attempting it.

Pierce sure as heck wasn't an All Star caliber player last night.  All Stars don't shoot 27%.


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