jajuan johnson PER 36minute stats

[vinnie]

Here is why I say his PER 36 minute stats are meaningless. He has played a little more than 100 minutes total in 14 games. That is just not enough time to really see what the guy can do. That said, I have been impressed with him, especially against Chicago. However, when a guy has played 100 minutes out of his team's total of more than 1,300 minutes, I don't think the PER 36 is meaningful.

[LooseCannon]

Here is why I say his PER 36 minute stats are meaningless. He has played a little more than 100 minutes total in 14 games.

The small sample size is a reason why all of his stats are somewhat meaningless, including shooting percentage and rebounding rate.

[Jon]

I agree that the stats are meaningless now; however, his play is encouraging. He has all the tools to be a big steal. Usually guys in the late first round/second round are super athletes (Gerald Green) with no polis or polished guys with some flaw in height, conditioning, or health (BBD, Powe, Gomes, TA), but JaJuan seems to be the exception. He is a four year college player who can jump through the roof, play defense, and hit a jump shot. Sure he is skinny, but that can be remedied and is somewhat overrated (KG managed to dominate at 6-11 220 early in his career).

Again, I wouldn't save a place for him in thr rafters yet, but I think he is proving that he is a keeper who could turn out to be pretty good.

[snively]

Currently, he has an offensive rebounding percentage higher than anyone on the team except Wilcox or Stiemsma.  However, his defensive rebounding percentage is lower than those of Rondo, Pietrus, and Daniels.  His overall rebounding percentage is slightly better than Jeff Green, somewhat worse than Glen Davis.

He seems unlikely to be more than average as a rebounder, but his other skills are such that he could easily be an above-average player overall even if he is a poor rebounder.

That last paragraph is spot on.  Rebounding is very important, but a high-level offensive roleplayer can be a valuable contributor even without good rebounding: Carl Landry and Brandon Bass come to mind.

As for the offensive/defensive rebounding disparity, a lot of it has to do with his build.  His quickness and length serve him much better hunting for offensive rebounds than trying to box out/hold off an NBA big man. 

Ideally, he can follow the Amir Johnson body development path and get strong enough to hold his own on the defensive boards without losing the quickness that makes him a threat on the offensive boards.

[mcshane41]

I find it interesting to see some of the draft day talk coming true. Danny said 'the kid can shoot. If we get him his spots he'll score the basketball' It is true and JJJ is showing it with his limited time so far. He may never bulk up enough to develop past the offensive big man/bench guy role - BUT that is the kind of complimentary player you must find late in the draft.

JJJ should be a nice player for us if he keeps this up.

[PosImpos]

JaJuan is probably a bigger Hakim Warrick.  But that's not bad at all for a guy picked at the end of the first round.

[gar]

He was getting pushed around pretty bad and could not stop anyone from backing him down in the paint. Yes he was in the right place; but he could not hold his position and did not even seem to be trying to. KG positions himself to resist. JjJ was just standing up straight trying to bother people with his length. That may work in college where you have a couple inches on everyone. Not in the NBA.

[KCattheStripe]

JaJuan is probably a bigger Hakim Warrick.  But that's not bad at all for a guy picked at the end of the first round.

You mean he'll have a power forward's skill set with the size to play PF?

[PosImpos]

JaJuan is probably a bigger Hakim Warrick.  But that's not bad at all for a guy picked at the end of the first round.

You mean he'll have a power forward's skill set with the size to play PF?

i mean a productive scorer, athletic finisher, and a sub-par rebounder with range inside the 3 point line.  perhaps a decent perimeter / man defender, but probably not a very good post defender.

that's my thinking.

[j804]

I'm ready for the triple J show tomorrow !!!

[clover]

He was getting pushed around pretty bad and could not stop anyone from backing him down in the paint. Yes he was in the right place; but he could not hold his position and did not even seem to be trying to. KG positions himself to resist. JjJ was just standing up straight trying to bother people with his length. That may work in college where you have a couple inches on everyone. Not in the NBA.

Yep.  And that's all about technique and digging in.  I don't know whether he's really going to get that this year, but I expect by next year he'll be holding his ground.  Once he does then I imagine he'll also be able to come up to being an average, but not great, rebounder, considering he was a good, but not great, rebounder in college.

[mctyson]

i mean a productive scorer, athletic finisher, and a sub-par rebounder with range inside the 3 point line.  perhaps a decent perimeter / man defender, but probably not a very good post defender.

that's my thinking.

that's more than value for a late first round pick.

i know its one game, but JJJ played his best game of the year and most minutes of the year against the best team in the league, best defense in the league.  cant overlook that.

[BballTim]

Everyone looks better PER 36 it's pretty unreliable.   

Truer words were never spoken. An especially meaningless stat for guys who have hardly played any minutes in games where it mattered.

  He must have played close to half his minutes in the Memphis and Chicago games. Didn't those minutes matter?

  As for his defense and rebounding, I don't think you can really make a good judgement for a year or two. He's a rookie and there was a lockout the entire offseason. Give him a summer or two with the strength and conditioning guys and we'll see what we have, and whether he still gets pushed around or not.

[clover]

JaJuan is probably a bigger Hakim Warrick.  But that's not bad at all for a guy picked at the end of the first round.

You mean he'll have a power forward's skill set with the size to play PF?

i mean a productive scorer, athletic finisher, and a sub-par rebounder with range inside the 3 point line.  perhaps a decent perimeter / man defender, but probably not a very good post defender.

that's my thinking.

That's probably fair, though I think he could become an average rebounder, an above-decent perimeter/man defender and a good post defender against much but not all of his competition.

[the_Bird]

I'm cautiously optimistic about his ability to play D because he seems to have some good quickness and he seems to be very coachable.  I'm doubtful that he'll get a lot bulkier than he is right now, but he should get at least a little stronger.  Seems like he's got the potential to be a pretty decent perimeter defender, maybe not so much as an interior post defender, but he should be able to play the D the C's look for from their big men. 

Not sure about the rebounding, though. Hopefully, his technique will improve and he'll get a little better.  He's never going to outmuscle people, but hopefully he can use his quickness to get in position and box out.