Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?

[MetroGlobe]

Is it because the defensive scheme prevents and/or discourages it?  Or is it because our big guys never fundamentally learned to do it because they "came up" athletically and vertically superior to their opponents?  The latter theory is something I heard Tommy say on the broadcast once, and it made some sense. 

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Gasol and Bynum are just standing free right under the rim, every SINGLE time a shot goes up.  They kill us with those tip-ins every game.

Anybody have any thoughts on this glaring team deficiency?

[Bankshot]

Offensive rebounds by the Lakers killed them!

[gar]

KG and Jermaine never went to College! Thats why.

[BASS_THUMPER]

PERK

PERK

[timpiker]

Because our players are lazy and stupid - show that Auerbach/Russell video to them until they can't stand it any longer, then like Clockwork Orange, stick toothpicks on their eyelids so that have to watch it 24 hrs a day round the clock even if they sleep......

Its been a problem for years and Tommy talking about the rotating D is just trying to cover up for our LAZY AND STUPID players.....

[MetroGlobe]

PERK

PERK

Dude, you're money.  Perk knew when he was outclassed in terms of height or athleticism.  He got really good at boxing out in his last 2 years here (he struggled early in his career though).  His personal rebound numbers weren't superb or anything.  But his box outs allowed for our guards and The Old Man to get in there and grab the board instead.  Without at least one big guy in there boxing out, we are going to keep getting killed by much taller centers.

[ManUp]

Our bigs are constantly away from the rim because they're spotting up for jumpers and setting picks, we rarely take shots near the basket so there's no missing grabbing and going back up, and our coaching encourages getting back on defense. That's my theory for the offensive boards. Defensive rebounding is lack of effort and bad fundamentals, imo.

[jasail]

1) Lack of fundamentals - JO and KG were leapers when they came into the league.

2) Undersized - JO, KG, Wilcox and Bass are all undersized bigs.

3) Defensive Rotations - C's pick and roll defense often draws their bigs out to the perimeter and then fall off to deny the roll.  This allows the offensive player to get position underneath.   

[PosImpos]

1) Lack of fundamentals - JO and KG were leapers when they came into the league.

2) Undersized - JO, KG, Wilcox and Bass are all undersized bigs.

3) Defensive Rotations - C's pick and roll defense often draws their bigs out to the perimeter and then fall off to deny the roll.  This allows the offensive player to get position underneath.   

#1 I think is an enormous factor.

[GreenFaith1819]

Great question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhjb4P_jnKk&feature=related

Unfortunately, the world may never know, lol...

Our Bigs are smart enough to do it, but just didn't do it enough in this game.

[jasail]

1) Lack of fundamentals - JO and KG were leapers when they came into the league.

2) Undersized - JO, KG, Wilcox and Bass are all undersized bigs.

3) Defensive Rotations - C's pick and roll defense often draws their bigs out to the perimeter and then fall off to deny the roll.  This allows the offensive player to get position underneath.   

#1 I think is an enormous factor.

I think the combination of all three creates a perfect storm.

That is the one aspect of Perks game I miss.  He couldn't jump to save his life, so he relied on being bigger, stronger and in the right position.

[slamtheking]

1) Lack of fundamentals - JO and KG were leapers when they came into the league.

2) Undersized - JO, KG, Wilcox and Bass are all undersized bigs.

3) Defensive Rotations - C's pick and roll defense often draws their bigs out to the perimeter and then fall off to deny the roll.  This allows the offensive player to get position underneath.   

JO and KG are not undersized.  they just don't box out--at least when they're in position to even rebound.

Throw in the fact that this entire team needs to rebound, not just the big guys.

[celtics2]

Is it because the defensive scheme prevents and/or discourages it?  Or is it because our big guys never fundamentally learned to do it because they "came up" athletically and vertically superior to their opponents?  The latter theory is something I heard Tommy say on the broadcast once, and it made some sense. 

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Gasol and Bynum are just standing free right under the rim, every SINGLE time a shot goes up.  They kill us with those tip-ins every game.

Anybody have any thoughts on this glaring team deficiency?

Ask Doc.

[2short]

I put this question out many a time.  To me it is what keeps the celtics from being a great team.  We've got the lock down defense, enough offensive players to score but our rebounding is bad.  Who boxes out on our team?  Pierce, Pietrus, Stiesmsa and at times, kg, rondo & bass.
To clarify I don't think Perk ever really boxed out much, now much picked on scal DID (really).
Its pretty simple, shot goes up get a body on closest opposing player.  Basically our whole team is situation rebounders, ball comes to their spot they jump and get it.  Pierce bless his heart at 6'7" when he's under the basket he boxes his man out. 
Boxing out doesn't mean you have to get the ball just make sure your man doesn't get it.  Defensive team has the advantage, right? We are closer to the hoop when shot goes up

[Rondo2287]

Its because the guys are old, they put in effort on offense, and man to man defending but don't have enough energy left over to box out.