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Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2012, 03:40:06 PM »

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Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2012, 03:49:32 PM »

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1) Lack of fundamentals - JO and KG were leapers when they came into the league.

2) Undersized - JO, KG, Wilcox and Bass are all undersized bigs.
3) Defensive Rotations - C's pick and roll defense often draws their bigs out to the perimeter and then fall off to deny the roll.  This allows the offensive player to get position underneath.   

Not that I buy that tey are in fact undersized as KG and JO are both 7 foot, but even if they were, isn't that more of a reason to box out? While I certainly am not compairing myself to anyone who plays pro ball, I'm 5'8 and still get a fair amount of rebounds in my league BECAUSE I box out. First thing I do when a shot goes up is find someone to put a body on. Maybe it's because I'm short I learned this at an early age, and while I may not get the rebound you can pretty much be assured neither is the guy I'm boxing out.
 

Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2012, 04:00:47 PM »

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Its because the guys are old, they put in effort on offense, and man to man defending but don't have enough energy left over to box out.
I always felt like boxing out saved energy

It's more physically demanding because you need to hold someone back, if you don't box out you are just jumping.
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Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2012, 04:43:35 PM »

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I have never seen a Celtic team that devoted any amount of time to boxing out an opponent. NEVER! Maybe they did it back in the 60's but I wouldnt know that. Ive always been amazed at the lack of effort to box out an opponent on a consienten basis. Must be the coaches dont give it any importance.

Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2012, 05:00:56 PM »

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Not that I buy that tey are in fact undersized as KG and JO are both 7 foot, but even if they were, isn't that more of a reason to box out? While I certainly am not compairing myself to anyone who plays pro ball, I'm 5'8 and still get a fair amount of rebounds in my league BECAUSE I box out. First thing I do when a shot goes up is find someone to put a body on. Maybe it's because I'm short I learned this at an early age, and while I may not get the rebound you can pretty much be assured neither is the guy I'm boxing out.
Tommy is forever saying exactly this in the game broadcasts: boxing out is something that shorter guys can do to make sure that their team gets the rebound.

Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2012, 05:05:04 PM »

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Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2012, 05:06:16 PM »

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Powe didn't box out either.

He just was relentless on the offensive glass.

Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2012, 05:20:37 PM »

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Powe didn't box out either.

He just was relentless on the offensive glass.
He was relentless, but I definitely remember him boxing out often.  He was like night and day compared to Baby and Sheed.

The only two guys we've had that boxed out every possession were Harangody and Shelden.
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Re: Why are the Celtics one of the worst teams at boxing out?
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2012, 05:23:57 PM »

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Powe didn't box out either.

He just was relentless on the offensive glass.
He was relentless, but I definitely remember him boxing out often.  He was like night and day compared to Baby and Sheed.

The only two guys we've had that boxed out every possession were Harangody and Shelden.

my point of view also

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