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Sonny Weems
« on: February 09, 2012, 12:04:25 PM »

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Since Marquis seems to have fallen out of Doc's rotation and doesn't seem to be the same player anymore, I would look to release him and sign Weems (who should return in a few weeks) as a depth move.  I know that we have Pietrus backing up the 2 and the 3, but I think Weems is better than Sasha (who I like) and could provide scoring on the 2nd unit.  Weems is a slasher who can get his own shot, and I think we could use that on the 2nd unit as Pietrus is strictly just a 3-pt shooter these days.

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Re: Sonny Weems
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 12:06:18 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 12:06:58 PM »

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Sasha has a head on his shoulders. He knows how to play basketball. Ready made player.

Sonny Weems is more explosive but he doesn't understand his limitations and often hurts his team by his poor decision making. A work in progress player.

I'd rather keep Pavlovic. He is more dependable for the C's this season.

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 12:11:19 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

Fair enough.  I like Weems' potential, and I think Doc could get him to play defense.  I agree on the 2 for 1 trade thing, but I don't see anyone better than Weems getting bought out and coming here (that excludes Kaman of course).

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 12:13:50 PM »

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Sasha has a head on his shoulders. He knows how to play basketball. Ready made player.

Sonny Weems is more explosive but he doesn't understand his limitations and often hurts his team by his poor decision making. A work in progress player.

I'd rather keep Pavlovic. He is more dependable for the C's this season.

You pointed out my only concern with Weems, and that is that he's a bit out of control at times.  Sasha does fit this team this year, but I'd to see him be a bit more aggressive on offense.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 12:15:01 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

Fair enough.  I like Weems' potential, and I think Doc could get him to play defense.  I agree on the 2 for 1 trade thing, but I don't see anyone better than Weems getting bought out and coming here (that excludes Kaman of course).

The problem with guys like Weems is that while they have potential, the chances of them picking up the system and being able to contribute when they come in midseason are very slim. 

They can always pick him up in the offseason if they see that potential, but right now, they should be focussing on guys they are confident can step in quickly and produce if needed.

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 12:18:19 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

Fair enough.  I like Weems' potential, and I think Doc could get him to play defense.  I agree on the 2 for 1 trade thing, but I don't see anyone better than Weems getting bought out and coming here (that excludes Kaman of course).

The problem with guys like Weems is that while they have potential, the chances of them picking up the system and being able to contribute when they come in midseason are very slim. 

They can always pick him up in the offseason if they see that potential, but right now, they should be focussing on guys they are confident can step in quickly and produce if needed.

I'm pretty much on board with all of your statements, but I do feel like we could use a guy on the 2nd unit who can get his own shot and possibly create for others.  I guess you could play Pierce or Rondo with the 2nd unit more, but that would really run up their minutes.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 12:27:19 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

Fair enough.  I like Weems' potential, and I think Doc could get him to play defense.  I agree on the 2 for 1 trade thing, but I don't see anyone better than Weems getting bought out and coming here (that excludes Kaman of course).

The problem with guys like Weems is that while they have potential, the chances of them picking up the system and being able to contribute when they come in midseason are very slim. 

They can always pick him up in the offseason if they see that potential, but right now, they should be focussing on guys they are confident can step in quickly and produce if needed.

I'm pretty much on board with all of your statements, but I do feel like we could use a guy on the 2nd unit who can get his own shot and possibly create for others.  I guess you could play Pierce or Rondo with the 2nd unit more, but that would really run up their minutes.

While I agree with you, there are a couple things I would add.

First, I think come playoff time, there will be rarely a time when either Rondo or Pierce is not on the floor.  Doc will make sure at least one of them is always out there to handle the ball.

Second, I agree that their biggest need right now (other than maybe an upgrade at center, which will be hard to come by) is another shot creator on the second unit.  However, I don't think an eratic guy like Weems is the answer right now. 

One of the biggest reasons for this current run (along with the defense) is that they have simplified the offense, and eliminated a lot of the mistakes.  They win by out executing the other teams.  I think they need to stick with that identity, and if they do add another shot-creator, they need to be someone who fits into that, rather than a wild-card like Weems. 

Or, if they were going to go after an explosive player, I would much rather go after Al Thornton, who is just as explosive offensively, but also has shown better chops defensively, and a toughness that the C's would covet.

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 10:37:20 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

Fair enough.  I like Weems' potential, and I think Doc could get him to play defense.  I agree on the 2 for 1 trade thing, but I don't see anyone better than Weems getting bought out and coming here (that excludes Kaman of course).

The problem with guys like Weems is that while they have potential, the chances of them picking up the system and being able to contribute when they come in midseason are very slim. 

They can always pick him up in the offseason if they see that potential, but right now, they should be focussing on guys they are confident can step in quickly and produce if needed.

I'm pretty much on board with all of your statements, but I do feel like we could use a guy on the 2nd unit who can get his own shot and possibly create for others.  I guess you could play Pierce or Rondo with the 2nd unit more, but that would really run up their minutes.

While I agree with you, there are a couple things I would add.

First, I think come playoff time, there will be rarely a time when either Rondo or Pierce is not on the floor.  Doc will make sure at least one of them is always out there to handle the ball.

Second, I agree that their biggest need right now (other than maybe an upgrade at center, which will be hard to come by) is another shot creator on the second unit.  However, I don't think an eratic guy like Weems is the answer right now. 

One of the biggest reasons for this current run (along with the defense) is that they have simplified the offense, and eliminated a lot of the mistakes.  They win by out executing the other teams.  I think they need to stick with that identity, and if they do add another shot-creator, they need to be someone who fits into that, rather than a wild-card like Weems. 

Or, if they were going to go after an explosive player, I would much rather go after Al Thornton, who is just as explosive offensively, but also has shown better chops defensively, and a toughness that the C's would covet.


Where is Al Thornton? Why is he without a team?? Would love to have him. Far superior and more solid player than Weems.

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 03:46:09 PM »

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Weems was just released by the raptors, he might be a good option and unlike Lee wont cost the celts a first round pick.

He averaged 9pts a game for the raptors plays good D and has good wing size 6'5 1/2 6'10 wingspand
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 03:53:40 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.


"Cooked" is the perfect word to describe Marquis. TP Chris. I'd still rather take a gander on T-Will in the backup 2/3 spot. He has more potential. Bit time rebounder for those two positions (which we need help in) and can score in bunches at times. Not to mention he would certainly get the crowd involved with some of his highlights. Kick the tires danny!

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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2012, 04:03:33 PM »

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I am all for cutting Daniels loose (he really looks cooked), but I would prefer to hold onto the roster spot in case we wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal, or if there are any better buyouts.  Weems is not the kind of player you need to jump on.

Fair enough.  I like Weems' potential, and I think Doc could get him to play defense.  I agree on the 2 for 1 trade thing, but I don't see anyone better than Weems getting bought out and coming here (that excludes Kaman of course).

The problem with guys like Weems is that while they have potential, the chances of them picking up the system and being able to contribute when they come in midseason are very slim. 

They can always pick him up in the offseason if they see that potential, but right now, they should be focussing on guys they are confident can step in quickly and produce if needed.

I'm pretty much on board with all of your statements, but I do feel like we could use a guy on the 2nd unit who can get his own shot and possibly create for others.

  Isn't Terry supposed to be the guy on the 2nd unit that can create his own shot?

Re: Sonny Weems
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2012, 04:28:14 PM »

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What a great name--Sonny Weems.

Sounds like the manager of a third-rate boxer in Nevada in the '40s.