Welker Being Treated Like Buckner Is Out of Line

[Redz]

Seriously?  

Butterfingers in Copley Square?

It was a ball he should have caught, but I don't put it up there on the all time goats list.  

[PosImpos]

Seriously?  

Butterfingers in Copley Square?

It was a ball he should have caught, but I don't put it up there in all time goats list.  

Yeah, it's ridiculous.  Not even a guarantee the Pats would have won if Welker caught the ball.

Asante Samuel was a bigger goat last time around, for sure.

Not to mention that if Brady hadn't gotten that safety early on, the Pats would have been up by 4 late in the game instead of just 2, so they could have forced the Giants to kick a field goal instead of letting them score a TD.

Brady deserves at least as much blame.

[Redz]

It was no "Merkle's Boner"   



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/264613-the-true-account-of-fred-merkels-boner

[mqtcelticsfan]

Brady could have tried not throwing it like a comeback route... Everyone should try spinning around while running and catching a football before they judge Welker.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Seriously?  

Butterfingers in Copley Square?

It was a ball he should have caught, but I don't put it up there on the all time goats list.  

Buckner being treated like Buckner is out of line -- several bad plays went into that infamous Game 6 defeat (Calvin Schiraldi, anyone?) ... and the Sox still had a chance to win in Game 7. The Buckner play was certainly a huge blunder, but it was one play out of many that went wrong -- just like Welker's drop was one play out of many that went wrong. If the Pats had played their cards right, they'd have had the game sewed up by the time the Welker drop occurred, and we wouldn't be here talking about it.

[guava_wrench]

It is amazing how this is being blown out of proportion. I didn't watch the game with Pats fans so I missed the import of this play compared to Brady's blunders. Nevermind the fact that it was not an easy catch. Pat's fans are spoiled with Welker and some are going a bit crazy when he looks like a normal receiver on a play.

[Celtics Fan]

Nope he gets what he deserve because of idiot fans.

[Celtics Fan]

Seriously? 

Butterfingers in Copley Square?

It was a ball he should have caught, but I don't put it up there in all time goats list. 

Yeah, it's ridiculous.  Not even a guarantee the Pats would have won if Welker caught the ball.

Asante Samuel was a bigger goat last time around, for sure.

Not to mention that if Brady hadn't gotten that safety early on, the Pats would have been up by 4 late in the game instead of just 2, so they could have forced the Giants to kick a field goal instead of letting them score a TD.

Brady deserves at least as much blame.

Yes it was Welker fault they lost the game the drive had 6 points all over it. So don't try to reach back several years on Samuels square head. Welker blew it and that's that.

[2short]

spoiled fans nothing more
"they" didn't win so they look to blame
we've seen it on here, its not just boston though

[Redz]

Seriously?  

Butterfingers in Copley Square?

It was a ball he should have caught, but I don't put it up there on the all time goats list.  

Buckner being treated like Buckner is out of line -- several bad plays went into that infamous Game 6 defeat (Calvin Schiraldi, anyone?) ... and the Sox still had a chance to win in Game 7. The Buckner play was certainly a huge blunder, but it was one play out of many that went wrong -- just like Welker's drop was one play out of many that went wrong. If the Pats had played their cards right, they'd have had the game sewed up by the time the Welker drop occurred, and we wouldn't be here talking about it.

definitely agree with Buckner being unfairly blamed for '86...did at the time too.  Nonetheless he has become one of sports history's symbols of chokers. 

[BballTim]

Seriously?  

Butterfingers in Copley Square?

It was a ball he should have caught, but I don't put it up there on the all time goats list.  

Buckner being treated like Buckner is out of line -- several bad plays went into that infamous Game 6 defeat (Calvin Schiraldi, anyone?) ... and the Sox still had a chance to win in Game 7. The Buckner play was certainly a huge blunder, but it was one play out of many that went wrong -- just like Welker's drop was one play out of many that went wrong. If the Pats had played their cards right, they'd have had the game sewed up by the time the Welker drop occurred, and we wouldn't be here talking about it.

  The fault was with the coach for leaving him out there. He was trying to play through, what, torn ligaments in his ankle or something? A late game defensive replacement was the way to go.

[Roy H.]

Brady takes a stupid safety.

Brady throws a stupid interception by underthrowing the ball to a hobbled receiver on 1st-and-10 from the 43 yard line.

Brady makes a poor throw to Welker that causes his receiver to have to awkwardly contort his body, rather than catching the ball in stride.

And yet, Welker is to blame, because it "hit him in his hands".  Never mind that he had to basically stop, pivot, and jump backward to even get his hands on the ball.  In the world of Patriots fans, if you can touch a ball, you're absolutely required to catch it, no matter how bad the throw.  If you don't catch it, you're going to take the blame, no matter how many game-changing mistakes your QB has made.

[jasail]

Said it Sunday and have been saying it since, the blame list is long, just like it was in 2007.

Brady - Safety on the first play; under thrown deep ball for an interception on 1st and 10; catchable pass but over throws Welker; catchable passes but doesn't lead Branch enough twice.

Coaching - 12 men on the field; not going to the hurry-up more in the second half when the Pats offense started to get momentum; not blitzing the Giants after the Manningham catch and then waiting until 2nd down to let the Giants score; sticking with the 2TE/1RB set despite the fact Gronk was obviously useless in the passing game.

Molden - 12th man on the field; letting Manningham get outside and behind him when the defense was designed to keep everything  inside and in front. 

Welker - Picking up 7.5 yards instead of 8 on a 3rd down in the 2nd; missing Brady's overthrown pass.

Branch - Missing the 3rd and 11 pass after the Welker pass; missing the pass on the final drive that would have been for 30+ yards. 

Ninkovich - Lining up in the neutral zone after a timeout and then jumping offside on 3rd and 7 with the Giants pinned up against their endzone.  Giants ended up not scoring but rather than the Pats getting the ball at the 50 they got the ball at the 10 yard line. 

[Rondo2287]

Brady takes a stupid safety.

Brady throws a stupid interception by underthrowing the ball to a hobbled receiver on 1st-and-10 from the 43 yard line.

Brady makes a poor throw to Welker that causes his receiver to have to awkwardly contort his body, rather than catching the ball in stride.

And yet, Welker is to blame, because it "hit him in his hands".  Never mind that he had to basically stop, pivot, and jump backward to even get his hands on the ball.  In the world of Patriots fans, if you can touch a ball, you're absolutely required to catch it, no matter how bad the throw.  If you don't catch it, you're going to take the blame, no matter how many game-changing mistakes your QB has made.

Well the issue Hobbs is even though those mistakes were made earlier, if Welker makes that catch its the ballgame.  I'm not blaming him for this loss, I agree that it's a team loss, but Welker had a chance to erase the other mistakes.

Also pretty crazy but on the radio the other day Felger made a point that made me almost throw up all over the dashboard.  The patriots are 3 drops away from 6 championships.

Reche Caldwell drops the game winning touchdown in Indy in 2006.

Asante Drops the game winning interception in 2007

Welker drops this ball

Whether its fair to blame these players or not I don't really care, if these three plays are made we could have 6 championships.  Thats the kinda stuff that must keep brady up at night.

[jasail]

To me, Molden's play on Manningham was the by far the most egregious mistake.  That was just an utter failure at situational football.  Less than two minutes in the game and the other team has one timeout, the defense has to force all plays to the middle of the field to keep the clock running.  

There is absolutely no reason why a corner, that is already playing off the receiver, should allow that receiver to get outside and behind him. That's poor coverage and a stupid play.

If Molden stays outside and back, forcing Manningham more inside, Chung is there to break up any pass attempt.  Manning is then forced to throw the ball to the right side of the field where there is an open receiver but the play ends in bounds for short yardage.