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Magic May Allow Howard To Leave In Free Agency
« on: January 21, 2012, 12:53:14 PM »

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Jan 21, 2012 12:03 PM EST
 
The Magic have become more brazen in their belief they should roll the dice, allowing Dwight Howard to become a free agent this summer, where he can choose to leave -- at a very significant reduction in guaranteed money.

"He can still walk," Magic general manager Otis Smith said Friday afternoon. "But with a $30 million haircut."

To stay in Orlando, under terms of the new collective bargaining agreement, Howard can sign a five-year deal worth $110 million. To play anywhere else – unless he is traded there first – it will be four years and $80.5 million.



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This really improves our chances to at least discuss things with Dwight Howard.

Nets, Mavericks and Celtics will be the frontrunners in that order. Rockets are outsiders if they don't exercise team options on half of their team (unlikely) and also unlikely to turn those half good players to something great to attract Dwight to go there.


Re: Magic May Allow Howard To Leave In Free Agency
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 12:57:52 PM »

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The Celtics are also-rans next summer if they are only playing .500 basketball this season.

They need to do more to convince Dwight Howard he's joining a team on the verge of a title.

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 01:04:34 PM »

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The Nets gets a pass for sucking ? Just because they're in a big market, something is really wrong with these players.

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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 01:11:09 PM »

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I guess the Magic think they can make a deep playoff run this season.  Probably not, but looking at the field of playoff teams at the moment, they're probably 3rd best in the East. 

If they can make some moves to improve the supporting cast a bit, they could indeed be a surprise Eastern Conference Champion like they were in '09.  That might convince Dwight to stay.


If they are indeed in win-now mode, maybe we can convince Orlando to take a gamble with us and give us a future 1st (2013 or 2014) if we trade them one of the Big 3.


Ray Allen + E'Twuan Moore + Marquis Daniels

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J.J. Reddick + Q-Rich + Daniel Orton + future 1st (top 3 protected if necessary)
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 01:22:32 PM »

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I had a feeling Orlando Magic won't trade Dwight Howard. First of all, they won't get an equal value for the undisputed best Center in NBA going on half of decade. Secondly, $30 million :o We type of idiot would leave $30 million on the table and walk away. Orlando Magic hold trump card here. At the end of the day, I think Dwight Howard signs extension and stays in Orlando.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 02:18:52 PM »

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I firmly believe that we're in prime position to snag Dwight Howard if he makes it to free agency. The trickiest step to getting Dwight in Boston is clearing Pierce's contract from the books.

That can be done possibly through amnesty or via trade.

Realistically, we could move Rondo and the clippers pick to get into the top 10 and snag a swing man.

Lets say Rondo and the clippers pick (15-20 range) for Monte Ellis and the warriors pick (5-10 range).

We'd have room to sign both Derron Williams and Dwight Howard along with other pieces.

We'd have two top 10 picks in the draft, I like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Jared Sullinger for his scoring.

We'd project a future line-up as such:

Williams
Ellis
Kidd-Gilchrist
Sullinger
Howard


Tis my dream scenario.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 02:23:42 PM »

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It increases Mavs chance a lot more than Boston's.

Re: Magic May Allow Howard To Leave In Free Agency
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 08:10:50 AM »

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I firmly believe that we're in prime position to snag Dwight Howard if he makes it to free agency. The trickiest step to getting Dwight in Boston is clearing Pierce's contract from the books.

That can be done possibly through amnesty or via trade.

Realistically, we could move Rondo and the clippers pick to get into the top 10 and snag a swing man.

Lets say Rondo and the clippers pick (15-20 range) for Monte Ellis and the warriors pick (5-10 range).

We'd have room to sign both Derron Williams and Dwight Howard along with other pieces.

We'd have two top 10 picks in the draft, I like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Jared Sullinger for his scoring.

We'd project a future line-up as such:

Williams
Ellis
Kidd-Gilchrist
Sullinger
Howard


Tis my dream scenario.


Very good idea,
but how do you get two top 10 picks from moving Rondo?
Are you saying you'd get a top 10 pick from moving Pierce as well?
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 08:44:06 AM »

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I firmly believe that we're in prime position to snag Dwight Howard if he makes it to free agency. The trickiest step to getting Dwight in Boston is clearing Pierce's contract from the books.

That can be done possibly through amnesty or via trade.

Realistically, we could move Rondo and the clippers pick to get into the top 10 and snag a swing man.

Lets say Rondo and the clippers pick (15-20 range) for Monte Ellis and the warriors pick (5-10 range).

We'd have room to sign both Derron Williams and Dwight Howard along with other pieces.

We'd have two top 10 picks in the draft, I like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Jared Sullinger for his scoring.

We'd project a future line-up as such:

Williams
Ellis
Kidd-Gilchrist
Sullinger
Howard


Tis my dream scenario.

I think the keys to getting howard to sign would be having rondo as the pg and doc.

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 09:54:46 AM »

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Howard stays in Orlando rest of season, he leaves and goes to the Mavs probally. Lakers then are second place. I could live with this, beats him going to LA.   

DA 's only chance is to land some players so good not even DH could pass it up.  We have to dump the three big contracts at a min. to even get a shot at this type of talent.  

Basically Boston needs a windfall or "miracle" to regain its power status in the short term of 1 year.

Something good has to fall our way by accident.  Doesn't seem like we can BUY our way back into shape.

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 10:52:57 AM »

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I like the idea of Orlando rolling the dice. Stay strong and make a statement to the player saying "you dont run this team, the GM does". Orlando has a good record this year and I think they should look to add a couple pieces to the team and keep trying to entice Howard to stay. They could be a deep play off team by adding one or two other players.

Howard would be silly to walk and leave 30 mil on the table... Especially on a team that like someone said is probably 3rd best in the East. However if he does leave, I dont think we even have a shot at a discussion. I still stand by my prediction and say that we're gonna see Howard and Williams both in mavs jerseys next to Nowitzki next year.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 05:07:27 PM »

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If Howard does not want to become a Celtic, Ainge can still improve the team by effectively renting out cap space to facilitate a sign-and-trade that sends Howard to a capped out team.  That won't please people who want a contender next season, but a multi-year rebuilding plan may be the way to go.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 05:26:14 PM »

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If Howard does not want to become a Celtic, Ainge can still improve the team by effectively renting out cap space to facilitate a sign-and-trade that sends Howard to a capped out team.  That won't please people who want a contender next season, but a multi-year rebuilding plan may be the way to go.

trade for rudy gay

trade for okafor

sign eric gordon or oj mayo in the summer / role players

^^ now that's what i call a rebuild

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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 05:28:25 PM »

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Trade Pierce for an expiring contract + draft pick.

Gives us 34-38 mil in cap space. 

Enough to take on Dwight's 20 mil salary AND have 14-18 mil to dangle at Deron Williams.

Trade Rondo to the highest bidder.

Instant contender.


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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 08:03:44 PM »

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even if he says hes not coming to Boston, by letting him stay in Orlando and walk during FA still benefits us

if he gets traded it means the team trading for him will only trade him if he signs an extension.

If he survives to FA, we can talk to him, 1% is better than nothing...