Not a blow up trade but a youth infusion

[CFAN38]

Mayo isn't nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think.

I am not disillusioned about the player that OJ Mayo is. The fact of the matter is that the celtics don't have the pieces to trade for elite nba players. The next best thing is to bring in extreme talents who just haven't found there way in the NBA. OJ is exactly that he is averaging less points in the last 2 season then he did as a rookie. Being that he is still very young a veteran team and a great coach might be able to right his ship and in return have a solid starting 2 guard on there roster who can run the court, shoot the 3 and be a 18-20pt a game guy.

[kozlodoev]

Mayo isn't nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think.

TP-at least someone around here is paying attention.

I just don't get the Mayo infatuation.  Mayo is a selfish headcase, I wouldn't go near him.

Mayo is exactly what this team needs right now, which is a guy who can get his own shot and score in bunches, and someone who will sit down and defend opposing 2's.  Look at what Mayo did his first two years in the league -- he's still that guy.

Looking at what he's done over his first two years ... he came out of college with question marks about the ability to get his shot off, and proceeded to play himself out of a starting spot with the Grizzlies. Which part has of this is supposed to make me giddy, exactly?

[lantinm]

Mayo isn't nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think.

TP-at least someone around here is paying attention.

I just don't get the Mayo infatuation.  Mayo is a selfish headcase, I wouldn't go near him.

Mayo is exactly what this team needs right now, which is a guy who can get his own shot and score in bunches, and someone who will sit down and defend opposing 2's.  Look at what Mayo did his first two years in the league -- he's still that guy.

Looking at what he's done over his first two years ... he came out of college with question marks about the ability to get his shot off, and proceeded to play himself out of a starting spot with the Grizzlies. Which part has of this is supposed to make me giddy, exactly?

He came out of college with two question marks:  1. His attitude 2. His ability to play the point.  He could always get his shot off.  I still think it was a bad move to move him to the bench, but they wanted to go with a pure point in Conley, and they felt like they needed more defense with Allen (even though Mayo defends pretty well).

[pearljammer10]

1) Where does Mayo fit with Allen, Daniels, Dooling and Pietrus in the mix at sg.

2) How does it make any sense for the Kings to trade two young assets for basically one mid to late first round draft pick?

[lantinm]

1) Where does Mayo fit with Allen, Daniels, Dooling and Pietrus in the mix at sg.

2) How does it make any sense for the Kings to trade two young assets for basically one mid to late first round draft pick?

1. Allen should be playing 30 minutes a night, which would leave 18 for Mayo.  Daniels and Dooling would be out of the rotation for the most part.  Pietrus would back up Pierce at the 3 spot.  Mayo could also get some minutes at backup PG, so he could see around 26-28 minutes a night.

2. Both Thompson and Mayo could be had on the cheap for more or less.  I mean Mayo was almost dealt for Mcroberts, and Thompson could be obtained for a mid-1st rounder and a high 2nd round pick.

[CFAN38]

1) Where does Mayo fit with Allen, Daniels, Dooling and Pietrus in the mix at sg.

2) How does it make any sense for the Kings to trade two young assets for basically one mid to late first round draft pick?

1)Mayo fits as rays backup, and our 3rd string pg

PG  Rondo,Dooling,Mayo,Moore
SG  Ray,Mayo,Daniels, Moore
SF  Pierce, Pietrus, Daniels, Sasha

2) Kings clear two contracts of players who haven't panned out in there system and get a middle first round pick in a very desirable draft, JO also gives them a vet big man especially with Hayes hurt

[kozlodoev]

Mayo isn't nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think.

TP-at least someone around here is paying attention.

I just don't get the Mayo infatuation.  Mayo is a selfish headcase, I wouldn't go near him.

Mayo is exactly what this team needs right now, which is a guy who can get his own shot and score in bunches, and someone who will sit down and defend opposing 2's.  Look at what Mayo did his first two years in the league -- he's still that guy.

Looking at what he's done over his first two years ... he came out of college with question marks about the ability to get his shot off, and proceeded to play himself out of a starting spot with the Grizzlies. Which part has of this is supposed to make me giddy, exactly?

He came out of college with two question marks:  1. His attitude 2. His ability to play the point.  He could always get his shot off.  I still think it was a bad move to move him to the bench, but they wanted to go with a pure point in Conley, and they felt like they needed more defense with Allen (even though Mayo defends pretty well).

This is simply not true:

His first step is lacking in explosiveness and he does not have the greatest ability to turn the corner, as a result he rarely blows by defenders and is forced into shooting tough and contested shots too often While he was able to convert on challenged shots in college, those shots will be that much tougher at the next level

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/oj-mayo

Other sites have pretty much the same conclusion. His stuff just doesn't work in the NBA, and he's relegated to being a spot shooter. Last season, a whooping 84% of his shots were jumpers, and 69% of those were assisted.

Mayo is a 40-year-old Ray Allen. Redux.

[lantinm]

Mayo isn't nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think.

TP-at least someone around here is paying attention.

I just don't get the Mayo infatuation.  Mayo is a selfish headcase, I wouldn't go near him.

Mayo is exactly what this team needs right now, which is a guy who can get his own shot and score in bunches, and someone who will sit down and defend opposing 2's.  Look at what Mayo did his first two years in the league -- he's still that guy.

Looking at what he's done over his first two years ... he came out of college with question marks about the ability to get his shot off, and proceeded to play himself out of a starting spot with the Grizzlies. Which part has of this is supposed to make me giddy, exactly?

He came out of college with two question marks:  1. His attitude 2. His ability to play the point.  He could always get his shot off.  I still think it was a bad move to move him to the bench, but they wanted to go with a pure point in Conley, and they felt like they needed more defense with Allen (even though Mayo defends pretty well).

This is simply not true:

His first step is lacking in explosiveness and he does not have the greatest ability to turn the corner, as a result he rarely blows by defenders and is forced into shooting tough and contested shots too often While he was able to convert on challenged shots in college, those shots will be that much tougher at the next level

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/oj-mayo

Other sites have pretty much the same conclusion. His stuff just doesn't work in the NBA, and he's relegated to being a spot shooter. Last season, a whooping 84% of his shots were jumpers, and 69% of those were assisted.

Mayo is a 40-year-old Ray Allen. Redux.

Have you watched Mayo?  He has NEVER had issues with "getting his shot off", nor has he had any problems blowing by people.  I'll agree that he spends too much time on the perimeter, but we can say that about a lot of players.  Can he create offense for others....not so much, which is why they moved him off the point, but he has always been able to create offense for himself (regardless of what these fancy stats say).  


"Controversy aside, Mayo is an excellent player. He's a tremendous athlete, a 6'5" scoring guard who has the talent to get to the rim more or less at will, but many observers question his basketball smarts and his willingness to get teammates involved in the game. Of course, Mayo wouldn't be the first supremely talented guard that doubles as a bit of a ball-hog. (He wouldn't even be the first one to play home games in Los Angeles this season… Kobe Bryant, anyone?)"

http://basketball.about.com/od/players/p/ojmayo.htm


By Charlie Zegers,

[kozlodoev]

Yeah, I've watched Mayo. I don't recall him ever doing anything impressive in this department. Must be me.

[lantinm]

Yeah, I've watched Mayo. I don't recall him ever doing anything impressive in this department. Must be me.

Fair enough.  Good debate deserves a TP.

[RajonRondo9Dime]

Mayo isn't nearly as good as a lot of people seem to think.

Even worse. He's a bad player. Not worth a first round pick, IMO.