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Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #345 on: January 16, 2012, 09:55:30 PM »

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The one other thing about our bigs..JO is hurt every other or 3rd game...kg was hurt the last 2 years at 1/2 season....then what...hmmmmm, well, play wilcox or steamer.....and then no one ever really played with them so...you'll have screwed yourself....instead of haveing a team of options..and you could use wilcox and steamer vs the bigs like howard ect for foul trouble....howard gets a mill calls....

Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #346 on: January 16, 2012, 09:55:51 PM »

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Awful end to the third quarter.

That small lineup by Oklahoma changed the whole complexion of the game. The Celtics were unable to matchup properly against that and it put them at a serious disadvantage + had numerous brain farts which resulted in how many turnovers? 4 ? 5?

Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #347 on: January 16, 2012, 09:55:59 PM »

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C's tallest man on the court is 6'7. :'(
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Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #348 on: January 16, 2012, 09:56:09 PM »

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Ray has been pretty terrible tonight.
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Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #349 on: January 16, 2012, 09:56:26 PM »

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C's tallest man on the court is 6'7. :'(


Appalling lack of size on this team.
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« Reply #350 on: January 16, 2012, 09:56:35 PM »

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oh great, Ray's holding his shooting hand.

Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #351 on: January 16, 2012, 09:57:00 PM »

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That's true, but the coach has to be able to have faith in the younger players to give him something.

The Spurs have played Bonner, Splitter, Leonard, Green, and Blair more minutes this season than their veteran Big 3, yet they're looking great. 

Pop has played those guys enough minutes that they are confident not just to play supporting roles, but to actually play feature roles at times, which really helps take the load off the bigger names.

If your point is that the Spurs organization is better at finding talent than us, I´d agree with you, and I´m sure Danny would, too. They´re the best in the league when it comes to finding diamonds in the rough. Doesn´t change the point that it´s not Doc´s fault if our rookies can´t force the coach´s hand.
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Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #352 on: January 16, 2012, 09:57:56 PM »

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Remember when Brandon Bass was money on those shots? Celts Playing as hard as they can, OKC putting up a stinker, and still down 10.

Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #353 on: January 16, 2012, 09:58:30 PM »

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That's true, but the coach has to be able to have faith in the younger players to give him something.

The Spurs have played Bonner, Splitter, Leonard, Green, and Blair more minutes this season than their veteran Big 3, yet they're looking great. 

Pop has played those guys enough minutes that they are confident not just to play supporting roles, but to actually play feature roles at times, which really helps take the load off the bigger names.

If your point is that the Spurs organization is better at finding talent than us, I´d agree with you, and I´m sure Danny would, too. They´re the best in the league when it comes to finding diamonds in the rough. Doesn´t change the point that it´s not Doc´s fault if our rookies can´t force the coach´s hand.

The Spurs organization is better at finding talent, and Pop is better at managing minutes and getting more of his players involved and integrated into what the team is trying to do.  I don't think it's as simple as that the Spurs are drafting / acquiring much better players.
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« Reply #354 on: January 16, 2012, 09:58:50 PM »

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Remember when Brandon Bass was money on those shots? Celts Playing as hard as they can, OKC putting up a stinker, and still down 10.

Bass is a streaky shooter.
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« Reply #355 on: January 16, 2012, 09:59:35 PM »

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ray is looking bad tonight, turnovers by ray....not often.....with less turnovers, we would be in this....didn't ray get that call.....?

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« Reply #356 on: January 16, 2012, 10:00:28 PM »

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People still clamoring for rookies to play? I bet these same people wanted Giddens or Hudson to get more time. We don't have stars sitting on the bench. We have an old lineup that can't play anymore. Maybe the C's will get lucky in the lottery.

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« Reply #357 on: January 16, 2012, 10:01:36 PM »

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That's true, but the coach has to be able to have faith in the younger players to give him something.

The Spurs have played Bonner, Splitter, Leonard, Green, and Blair more minutes this season than their veteran Big 3, yet they're looking great. 

Pop has played those guys enough minutes that they are confident not just to play supporting roles, but to actually play feature roles at times, which really helps take the load off the bigger names.

If your point is that the Spurs organization is better at finding talent than us, I´d agree with you, and I´m sure Danny would, too. They´re the best in the league when it comes to finding diamonds in the rough. Doesn´t change the point that it´s not Doc´s fault if our rookies can´t force the coach´s hand.

I just watched the movie Moneyball, for those who have seen it, the GM can pick up players that fit the system, but can't always force the coach to play them.
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #358 on: January 16, 2012, 10:01:57 PM »

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I like Pietrus.

Re: Thunder (11-2) at Celtics (4-7) 11/16
« Reply #359 on: January 16, 2012, 10:02:05 PM »

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Really like what Pietrus gives us.  We've really missed having somebody who can get out on the break and get in position to take a quick shot (and he can defend, too).
Never forget the Champs of '08, or the gutsy warriors of '10.

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