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Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2012, 05:28:11 PM »

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look at deron williams, the guy became such a locker room cancer in Utah that they traded him for basically nothing to NJ

now, after he got what he wanted hes whining once again since NJ is not winning.

plus, theres the whole Deron vs. Sloan feud that caused him to retire...I dont care what anyone says in the media about it. but coaches of Sloan's type dont just retire in the middle of a season for no reason and Deron/sloan arent going to throw one another under the bus publicly

I dont think the kid is a winner or competitor..the moment its not going great, Derron wants to bolt town..sometimes you have to look beyond the stats and at the players personality.

So is CP3 a cancer to because he wanted to be on a contender? It's the same situation because neither was going to resign with their team, they both got traded for young prospects. Favors is nothing? The guy is going to be a very good PF.

Look at NJ roster, it is AWFUL. Deron,ray,PP,KG and Bass would be pretty unstoppable and Deron can actually take it to the basket at the end of games without being afraid to take FT's.

speaking of players peronalities, Rondo flipped out during the heat series last year by shattering a glass bottle during the c's video research and was locked out of the team facilities when he tried to come back....

Not to mention his fued with PP last year during that series when PP got p---ed at Rondo because he wouldn't pass him the ball to end the quarter in one of those games.

Rondo also admitted he was affected by the Perkins trade because they traded his best friend....
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Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2012, 05:34:45 PM »

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look at deron williams, the guy became such a locker room cancer in Utah that they traded him for basically nothing to NJ

now, after he got what he wanted hes whining once again since NJ is not winning.

plus, theres the whole Deron vs. Sloan feud that caused him to retire...I dont care what anyone says in the media about it. but coaches of Sloan's type dont just retire in the middle of a season for no reason and Deron/sloan arent going to throw one another under the bus publicly

I dont think the kid is a winner or competitor..the moment its not going great, Derron wants to bolt town..sometimes you have to look beyond the stats and at the players personality.

So is CP3 a cancer to because he wanted to be on a contender? It's the same situation because neither was going to resign with their team, they both got traded for young prospects. Favors is nothing? The guy is going to be a very good PF.

Look at NJ roster, it is AWFUL. Deron,ray,PP,KG and Bass would be pretty unstoppable and Deron can actually take it to the basket at the end of games without being afraid to take FT's.

derron williams is a cancer because he was so unbearable in the locker-room he caused a HOF coach Jerry Sloan to retire, and Utah to trade him because he became so unbearable.

at least New Orleans got quality in return...and Chris paul never pushed a HOF coach out of New Orleans

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2012, 05:36:26 PM »

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look at deron williams, the guy became such a locker room cancer in Utah that they traded him for basically nothing to NJ

now, after he got what he wanted hes whining once again since NJ is not winning.

plus, theres the whole Deron vs. Sloan feud that caused him to retire...I dont care what anyone says in the media about it. but coaches of Sloan's type dont just retire in the middle of a season for no reason and Deron/sloan arent going to throw one another under the bus publicly

I dont think the kid is a winner or competitor..the moment its not going great, Derron wants to bolt town..sometimes you have to look beyond the stats and at the players personality.

So is CP3 a cancer to because he wanted to be on a contender? It's the same situation because neither was going to resign with their team, they both got traded for young prospects. Favors is nothing? The guy is going to be a very good PF.

Look at NJ roster, it is AWFUL. Deron,ray,PP,KG and Bass would be pretty unstoppable and Deron can actually take it to the basket at the end of games without being afraid to take FT's.

derron williams is a cancer because he was so unbearable in the locker-room he caused a HOF coach Jerry Sloan to retire, and Utah to trade him for nothing.

at least New Orleans got quality in return...and Chris paul never pushed a HOF coach out of New Orleans

like I said, they got Favors, the guy is a walking double double for the next 5 years, quite possibly a 20/10 guy with great size.

They also got Devin Harris who is a very solid starting PG

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2012, 05:37:56 PM »

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derron williams is a cancer because he was so unbearable in the locker-room he caused a HOF coach Jerry Sloan to retire, and Utah to trade him for nothing.

at least New Orleans got quality in return...and Chris paul never pushed a HOF coach out of New Orleans

A) Jerry Sloan and Deron WIlliams both said he didn't push Sloan out of the lockerroom. Sometimes, coaches lose the ear of their players, or they stick around too long. By all accounts, that's what happened to Sloan.

B) Utah didn't trade him for nothing. Derrick Favors would have pretty much everyone in Boston salivating over him if he were here. Kid is gonna be a beast.

C) Chris Paul hasn't exactly been keeping coaches in New Orleans. Ask Byron Scott.

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Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2012, 05:42:16 PM »

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just because no one is saying it publicly doesnt mean he didnt force sloan to retire..is it any coincidence that both Sloan and Derron clashed repeatedly with heated arguments in games Right before his retirement?

even coaches who overstay their welcome generally dont up and quit mid-season...it was very telling.

For a board full of people who doubt everything Ainge says to the media. you sure are quick to jump on Sloan/Derrons comments to the media that it had nothing to do with him retiring. when everyone knows both clashed frequently.


Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2012, 05:52:07 PM »

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just because no one is saying it publicly doesnt mean he didnt force sloan to retire..is it any coincidence that both Sloan and Derron clashed repeatedly with heated arguments in games Right before his retirement?

even coaches who overstay their welcome generally dont up and quit mid-season...it was very telling.

For a board full of people who doubt everything Ainge says to the media. you sure are quick to jump on Sloan/Derrons comments to the media that it had nothing to do with him retiring. when everyone knows both clashed frequently.



I don't think Deron Williams clashing with Sloan would make the man retire in a vacuum. I'm surprised anyone does. Jerry Sloan is widely acknowledged as one of the most willful coaches in the history of the league. You think Deron Williams was the first player the buck?

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2012, 05:56:09 PM »

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My freshman year I transferred mid-year.

My roommate had gone through three roommates before. Two of them cried every night because they were homesick, and the other was thrown out of school after multiple offenses in a semester. When I arrived my roommate ignored my Kurt Angle t-shirt and treated me like an angel from heaven.

My point is, after years of terrible teammates, an aging Celtics team might just be enough for ole D-Will.

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2012, 05:58:20 PM »

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just because no one is saying it publicly doesnt mean he didnt force sloan to retire..is it any coincidence that both Sloan and Derron clashed repeatedly with heated arguments in games Right before his retirement?

even coaches who overstay their welcome generally dont up and quit mid-season...it was very telling.

For a board full of people who doubt everything Ainge says to the media. you sure are quick to jump on Sloan/Derrons comments to the media that it had nothing to do with him retiring. when everyone knows both clashed frequently.



I don't think Deron Williams clashing with Sloan would make the man retire in a vacuum. I'm surprised anyone does. Jerry Sloan is widely acknowledged as one of the most willful coaches in the history of the league. You think Deron Williams was the first player the buck?

I think you're too far on the other side though, IP, because the truth is probably somewhere more in the middle.

Jerry Sloan had been a coach for a LOOOOOONG time, chances are he'd been considering retirement for a while and Deron Williams   antics put him over the top.

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2012, 06:05:41 PM »

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I would rather have Rondo.  So I say no thank you on Deron.

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 06:08:02 PM »

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just because no one is saying it publicly doesnt mean he didnt force sloan to retire..is it any coincidence that both Sloan and Derron clashed repeatedly with heated arguments in games Right before his retirement?

even coaches who overstay their welcome generally dont up and quit mid-season...it was very telling.

For a board full of people who doubt everything Ainge says to the media. you sure are quick to jump on Sloan/Derrons comments to the media that it had nothing to do with him retiring. when everyone knows both clashed frequently.



I don't think Deron Williams clashing with Sloan would make the man retire in a vacuum. I'm surprised anyone does. Jerry Sloan is widely acknowledged as one of the most willful coaches in the history of the league. You think Deron Williams was the first player the buck?

I think you're too far on the other side though, IP, because the truth is probably somewhere more in the middle.

Jerry Sloan had been a coach for a LOOOOOONG time, chances are he'd been considering retirement for a while and Deron Williams   antics put him over the top.
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They probably helped. I think the Utah Jazz front office freaking out about keeping D-Will helped out a lot more and Sloan was sick of the whole thing and wanted to go coach a Christian Youth Organization team somewhere.

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Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 06:12:18 PM »

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Still trying to fix what isn't broken...what, we lose a star guard in rondo, then get d willams...then what..in a month, when you find 1 or 2 things wrong with williams..you try to trade him for cp3....then micro-analyis him to death, then trade him for another pg.....The PG is not the problem here..add anywhere else.coach, center, shooting guard backup....forward...fast break runners.....

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 06:22:02 PM »

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I would rather have Rondo.  So I say no thank you on Deron.
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Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2012, 06:26:33 PM »

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I cannot understand why everyone keeps thinking about getting a new PG when this is the only position in which we are well served and the man currently handling the job is the assit leader in the league and will certainly improve year after year!!

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2012, 06:29:06 PM »

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I cannot understand why everyone keeps thinking about getting a new PG when this is the only position in which we are well served and the man currently handling the job is the assit leader in the league and will certainly improve year after year!!
I am WIT YA.....what do you want from the guy..? You want a young Allen Iverson..? This is as good as it gets with Rondo...fix the other parts..quit blaming Rondo..he is doing his job and more...last year he led in rebounds too....come on...!

Re: Could Deron Williams be acquired mid-season?
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2012, 07:05:21 PM »

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I cannot understand why everyone keeps thinking about getting a new PG when this is the only position in which we are well served and the man currently handling the job is the assit leader in the league and will certainly improve year after year!!

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