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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #120 on: January 07, 2012, 09:36:37 AM »

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46 year old - 1400+ free throws in an hour.  Do you think Rondo is practicing as much as this guy or maybe not? Do you think all the thousands of NBA players practiced as much as this guy? What do you think would happen if they did? By the way...he only hit 85%.  So maybe raising it to 90% is unlikely. But I'd settle for 85%


  Do you really think posting these videos somehow bolsters your claim?

Yeah

So what do you shoot?

I'm sure it's high 80's right? what with it being such an easy to master muscle memory task.

And i'm sure, in this world where rondo spent every waking moment practicing free throws to become this mythical ray allen like figure, you'd be ok with the drop off in his other skills, his film study and conditioning and weight training right?
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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #121 on: January 07, 2012, 10:14:00 AM »

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46 year old - 1400+ free throws in an hour.  Do you think Rondo is practicing as much as this guy or maybe not? Do you think all the thousands of NBA players practiced as much as this guy? What do you think would happen if they did? By the way...he only hit 85%.  So maybe raising it to 90% is unlikely. But I'd settle for 85%


  Do you really think posting these videos somehow bolsters your claim?

Yeah

So what do you shoot?

I'm sure it's high 80's right? what with it being such an easy to master muscle memory task.

  I'd guess he is a good free throw and it's a source of great pride in his life.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #122 on: January 07, 2012, 10:29:36 AM »

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I doubt it's because he doesn't practice them. Do you really think that his team mates and coaches don't get on his butt to practice his shooting?

I think his bad shooting is largely mental because I've seen numerous clips of him making nearly every shot in practice. No one from the team or staff has said that Rondo never practices shooting. I doubt you've been to a Celtics practice so you don't know what happens there.

So again, please, Eja, please stop spouting stuff off as facts and trying to be funny with pointless videos.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #123 on: January 08, 2012, 12:12:43 AM »

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46 year old - 1400+ free throws in an hour.  Do you think Rondo is practicing as much as this guy or maybe not? Do you think all the thousands of NBA players practiced as much as this guy? What do you think would happen if they did? By the way...he only hit 85%.  So maybe raising it to 90% is unlikely. But I'd settle for 85%


  Do you really think posting these videos somehow bolsters your claim?

Yeah

  Wow. You're really not big on the whole "just because some people can do it, that doesn't mean everyone can" concept, are you?

Not the simplest of skills when it comes to excellent pro athletes, no.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #124 on: January 08, 2012, 12:45:29 AM »

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46 year old - 1400+ free throws in an hour.  Do you think Rondo is practicing as much as this guy or maybe not? Do you think all the thousands of NBA players practiced as much as this guy? What do you think would happen if they did? By the way...he only hit 85%.  So maybe raising it to 90% is unlikely. But I'd settle for 85%


  Do you really think posting these videos somehow bolsters your claim?

Yeah

So what do you shoot?

I'm sure it's high 80's right? what with it being such an easy to master muscle memory task.

  I'd guess he is a good free throw and it's a source of great pride in his life.

Better than Rondo in games and I don't really try very hard at it.  I'd say most of the high school ball players in the nation are better. And they don't spend hours and hours in the gym either.  

So guys, what's the next basic skill you guys plan on being enablers/apologists about? Perhaps the ability to hit a break away layup?  The ability to get the inbounds pass in?  Oh but look at all the other things he can do!  He shouldn't be able to do that. It would take away from his other skills!
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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2012, 08:22:46 AM »

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46 year old - 1400+ free throws in an hour.  Do you think Rondo is practicing as much as this guy or maybe not? Do you think all the thousands of NBA players practiced as much as this guy? What do you think would happen if they did? By the way...he only hit 85%.  So maybe raising it to 90% is unlikely. But I'd settle for 85%


  Do you really think posting these videos somehow bolsters your claim?

Yeah

So what do you shoot?

I'm sure it's high 80's right? what with it being such an easy to master muscle memory task.

  I'd guess he is a good free throw and it's a source of great pride in his life.

Better than Rondo in games and I don't really try very hard at it.  I'd say most of the high school ball players in the nation are better. And they don't spend hours and hours in the gym either.  

So guys, what's the next basic skill you guys plan on being enablers/apologists about? Perhaps the ability to hit a break away layup?  The ability to get the inbounds pass in?  Oh but look at all the other things he can do!  He shouldn't be able to do that. It would take away from his other skills!

I wonder if anyone has thought to ask Ripley's Believe It Or Not if they know why Rondo can't hit his FTs.

Might be worth a shot.

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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #126 on: January 08, 2012, 09:02:42 AM »

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46 year old - 1400+ free throws in an hour.  Do you think Rondo is practicing as much as this guy or maybe not? Do you think all the thousands of NBA players practiced as much as this guy? What do you think would happen if they did? By the way...he only hit 85%.  So maybe raising it to 90% is unlikely. But I'd settle for 85%


  Do you really think posting these videos somehow bolsters your claim?

Yeah

  Wow. You're really not big on the whole "just because some people can do it, that doesn't mean everyone can" concept, are you?

Not the simplest of skills when it comes to excellent pro athletes, no.

  What's simple for some isn't simple for others. Some things look like they're simple for Rondo to do that you would probably never be able to master no matter how much you practice.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #127 on: January 08, 2012, 09:09:13 AM »

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So guys, what's the next basic skill you guys plan on being enablers/apologists about? Perhaps the ability to hit a break away layup?  The ability to get the inbounds pass in?  Oh but look at all the other things he can do!  He shouldn't be able to do that. It would take away from his other skills!

  Apologist, poster who points out that your claims are obviously nonsensical. Tomayto, tomahto.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #128 on: January 08, 2012, 12:50:32 PM »

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I guess this is kind of funny, but after 8 games, Rondo, at 56 percent, is 124th in the league in free throw shooting out of the 132 guys qualified to be ranked. He is ahead of Josh Smith, Antawn Jamison, Emeka Okafor, Andrew Bynum, Darko Milicic, Deandre Jordan, Dwight Howard and Kwame Brown, who brings up the rear at 42 percent. The next lowest point guard is Rubio at 67 percent.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #129 on: January 08, 2012, 06:07:01 PM »

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I guess this is kind of funny, but after 8 games, Rondo, at 56 percent, is 124th in the league in free throw shooting out of the 132 guys qualified to be ranked. He is ahead of Josh Smith, Antawn Jamison, Emeka Okafor, Andrew Bynum, Darko Milicic, Deandre Jordan, Dwight Howard and Kwame Brown, who brings up the rear at 42 percent. The next lowest point guard is Rubio at 67 percent.

Who knows... say Rondo enjoys a couple of 3 of 5 FT games, he could maybe move up a notch or two... unless he develops a bit of a swag and loses his stroke.

At that point, HELLO Kwame Brown!

Someone contact Mr. Ripley!

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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2012, 06:11:09 PM »

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I guess this is kind of funny, but after 8 games, Rondo, at 56 percent, is 124th in the league in free throw shooting out of the 132 guys qualified to be ranked. He is ahead of Josh Smith, Antawn Jamison, Emeka Okafor, Andrew Bynum, Darko Milicic, Deandre Jordan, Dwight Howard and Kwame Brown, who brings up the rear at 42 percent. The next lowest point guard is Rubio at 67 percent.

Rondo is who he is.  He's a bad free throw shooter, and that's just a limitation of his game.  Nothing more nothing less.

Unfortunately, as a PG with the ball in his hands for the vast majority of the game, the inability to hit free throws at a decent percentage is a pretty serious limitation.
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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #131 on: January 09, 2012, 12:14:16 AM »

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So guys, what's the next basic skill you guys plan on being enablers/apologists about? Perhaps the ability to hit a break away layup?  The ability to get the inbounds pass in?  Oh but look at all the other things he can do!  He shouldn't be able to do that. It would take away from his other skills!

  Apologist, poster who points out that your claims are obviously nonsensical. Tomayto, tomahto.
Well if it's nonsensical to say there's no reason he shouldn't be as good at free throw shooting as a high school kid, then I don't want to be sensical    :D

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #132 on: January 09, 2012, 06:37:20 AM »

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I accept the fact Rondo will only excel on a good team.
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Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #133 on: January 09, 2012, 09:20:57 AM »

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So guys, what's the next basic skill you guys plan on being enablers/apologists about? Perhaps the ability to hit a break away layup?  The ability to get the inbounds pass in?  Oh but look at all the other things he can do!  He shouldn't be able to do that. It would take away from his other skills!

  Apologist, poster who points out that your claims are obviously nonsensical. Tomayto, tomahto.
Well if it's nonsensical to say there's no reason he shouldn't be as good at free throw shooting as a high school kid, then I don't want to be sensical    :D

  Obviously there's a reason (or reasons) that he's not a great foul shooters, but you haven't really demonstrated any great insight into what the reason(s) are.

Re: I accept that Rondo will never be a good free throw shooter
« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2012, 11:04:39 AM »

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I'm sorry, but I find this form stuff to be absolute crap and honestly can't understand the people who seem to obsess about it. We've seen time after time guys with unorthodox shots who can absolutely light you up so I honestly don't buy the form stuff. Even Ray himself has said that it's about repetition and not form when he tried to coach Rondo. IMHO, as long as you have one hand on the side of the ball, one hand under the ball, and you have a fluid follow through your basically good to go.

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