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Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 10:12:55 AM »

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Any trade that the other team would not pick up the phone for is a no-brainer.

I don't think they would trade Evans straight up for Rondo, let alone for our garbage and a couple late first round picks. 
Not when they just drafted Jimmer Freddette so highly, they couldn't play him and Rondo at the same time very effectively.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2012, 10:14:16 AM »

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Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes.  While he struggled a bit in his second year, he was one of the better players in the league as a rookie.  

Right now, I think he is in the same class as someone like Ellis, and if he bounces back this year is capable of being a Westbrook type, or potentially even a Wade type.  

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 10:15:13 AM »

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Any trade that the other team would not pick up the phone for is a no-brainer.

I don't think they would trade Evans straight up for Rondo, let alone for our garbage and a couple late first round picks. 
Not when they just drafted Jimmer Freddette so highly, they couldn't play him and Rondo at the same time very effectively.

I think they could.  Rondo can cover a lot of SGs in this league.  And Fredette should be able to play off the ball at least part time. 

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 10:22:52 AM »

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Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes. Yes he is.

Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes.  While he struggled a bit in his second year, he was one of the better players in the league as a rookie. 

Right now, I think he is in the same class as someone like Ellis, and if he bounces back this year is capable of being a Westbrook type, or potentially even a Wade type. 

Chris nailed it.  He struggled with injuries in his second year as well I should add.
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Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2012, 12:58:41 PM »

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Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes. Yes he is.

Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes.  While he struggled a bit in his second year, he was one of the better players in the league as a rookie. 

Right now, I think he is in the same class as someone like Ellis, and if he bounces back this year is capable of being a Westbrook type, or potentially even a Wade type. 

Chris nailed it.  He struggled with injuries in his second year as well I should add.

I remember mayo having a spectacular rookie year as well. I would only take him if we could make a trade like the one mentioned. I would not want invest a lot of money for him and hes not making much now so thats fine. I think the d wade comparison is a little over board. He has potential to be an all star but to be arguably the.best player in the league? Just a but over board on that imo

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2012, 01:09:34 PM »

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 Out Jermaine "I'm in pain" Oneal, A. Bradley, K. Dooling,
 and two first round picks.

 In comes Jason Thompson, Tyreke Evans.

 For the Kings they are tired of having a team of Morons so they ship out the #2 moron Evans, and see if they can build around Cousins and Jimmer plus load up with three firsts in a strong draft.

 For us we role the dice with Evans, see if Doc, and Kevin, and Ray, and Paul can get though to him.

 We keep the starting five in tact, and he comes off the bench, as a gunning shooting guard, slash point guard . He's 6'6" and wirey, strong, quick, and athletic. I think he MIGHT be a nice fit and it's worth the small risk of Danny taking suspect talent in the Draft.

 Why not? We need SOMETHING Dynamic, this year to have a good shot at winning, were so close, but not quite there.

The Kings would be giving up the two best players in the deal.  No way they would even consider this.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2012, 05:28:33 PM »

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Any trade that the other team would not pick up the phone for is a no-brainer.

I don't think they would trade Evans straight up for Rondo, let alone for our garbage and a couple late first round picks. 

 Rondo is a more valued asset by most teams in the NBA in my opinion, I would not trade Evans for Rondo.

 He is a 50 50 star type of player in three years he could be an All Star for five years straight or he could be another Punk that never realizes his true talent.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2012, 05:56:37 PM »

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Any trade that the other team would not pick up the phone for is a no-brainer.

I don't think they would trade Evans straight up for Rondo, let alone for our garbage and a couple late first round picks. 

Are you kidding me? The KIngs would jump on a Tyreke and first deal for Rondo, Rondo is WORLDS better than him. Tyreke has no jump shot, it's as bad as Rondo's, his scoring comes from driving to the hoop and even still his percentages are inefficient. Not to mention he's a bad decision maker as a point guard and his defense is average at best. Rondo destroys Tyreke, and I'm one of the biggest Tyreke fans out there. I'd love dealing for Tyreke to play with Rondo though, just keep Allen around to work on his shooting, maybe he'll actually listen unlike Rondo!

Tyreke is close to being this year's OJ Mayo tbh. the competition (thornton, jimmer) is coming, and his flaws are being revealed.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 06:26:42 PM »

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Regardless of the trade viability, could you imagine the horrible shooting from an Evans/Rondo backcourt? Truly 2 guys who can't play together on offense due to the need of both of them to penetrate. We would see 2 guards cheating into the lane from every defense we faced.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 06:28:57 PM »

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It would also be a no brainer to trade Jermaine ONeal for Dwight Howard.... But... I mean.... only if the Magic are in.

Wow. Dumb. Dumb. Triple Dumb.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2012, 07:13:03 PM »

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I think some are under valuing 1st round picks a bit too much or over valuing evans. Id probably do this deal but I font think the kings make out that poorly. If you are going to trade evans what would they be expecting to get back?

I think if we were to ask fellow bloggers what they think WE would give up for a mid-first and late first I think we'd have some more realistic thinking about what others would give up.

Would you give Pierce - No.   Rondo - No.  Bass - likely (depending on depth of draft and current situation). Wilcox - Yes.    You do not trade a star player for a 15 and 25 in the draft mostly because the likelihood you'll get a star in return is minimal.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2012, 07:34:06 PM »

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Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes.  While he struggled a bit in his second year, he was one of the better players in the league as a rookie.  

Right now, I think he is in the same class as someone like Ellis, and if he bounces back this year is capable of being a Westbrook type, or potentially even a Wade type.  

  A Wade type? I'm not seeing that.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2012, 07:37:26 PM »

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this trade idea is so lopsided even me as a celtics fan would feel bad for the kings if they make such a trade. You are undervaluing what Evans has done. Evans puts up similar numbers to Dwade the pass few years. 20,5,5 look it up guys. If he had been on a winning team he would have already been an all-star and considered a star.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2012, 07:39:29 PM »

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Is Tyreke evans that much more valuable than a jamal crawford or OJ Mayo?

Yes.  While he struggled a bit in his second year, he was one of the better players in the league as a rookie.  

Right now, I think he is in the same class as someone like Ellis, and if he bounces back this year is capable of being a Westbrook type, or potentially even a Wade type.  

  A Wade type? I'm not seeing that.

That's his cieling.  I think he is much closer to Westbrook or Ellis, but his body (he is almost the exact same size as Wade, and a similar athlete) and skillset project him to be similar to Wade if he can put it all together.  The question of course is whether he has the basketball IQ and intangibles that Wade has.  But the potential is there.

Re: No Brainer Trade if the Kings are in.
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2012, 07:42:43 PM »

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Initial impression:  ::)

After looking at it closely, still a trade the Kings would never consider but Tyreke and Thompson aren't very good.

There is no way Tyreke is a star. He's a high-usage player that shoots inefficiently and turns the ball over a lot. He does rebound okay for his position and he gets to the free throw line but he's a possession killer. Now if he learns to shoot, watch out, but I get a Desmond Mason vibe from him.

Thompson is a generic big. Probably a little bit of an upgrade over Kristc and Wilcox but he should never be starting for a contending team.

Having said all of that, why do people continue to think the Celtics' trash will bring back even competent players?