Okay so let's say as a "precaution" O'Neal is out again on Wednesday and Steimsma has another solid starting performance, when O'Neal returns Friday what happens to Steimsma?
Does he continue to start?
Does he go to the bench and get the nod as the backup and does Doc make Wilcox earn the minutes over Steimsma?
Or is he relegated to third string once again even though he may have shown to be more in tune with what the C's need and playing more consistently productive basketball than the two veterans in front of him?
Unless they pick up another big....Steimsma will get plenty of opportunities.....As we'll go back to standard procedure on O'Neal....Where Rivers plays O'Neal as a precaution.....Whenever O'Neal feels like playing.
So, our head trainer telling JO he shouldn't play means that JO only plays when he feels like?
Smells like Spin.
JO took himslf out of the game Sunday night.
He's the kind of guy who cant play with nagging injuries. There are alot of guys like that. The problem is he always has nagging injuries.
On a team with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Rajon Rondo, he must not get too much respect in that locker room.
Can I assume he took himself out cause of the hamstring?
Also, who exactly do you think is spinning this? JO? Doc?
Doc...going out of his way to indicate it was not JO's decision.
There is a track record with this guy. Im sorry for speculating...what I am saying is not fact, just my opinion I might be worng!
He doesnt play through anything at all. Look at his games played numbers for his career. Then realize that he has never had a major leg injury. No torn ligaments, no microfracture...
1. What's this "track record"? Last season? I'll be blunt on this point, as to not "imply" one thing or another; I just think you don't like him, so you're the one using spin with this.
2. CONSIDERING last season, If Doc was infact told not by JO, but a TRAINER, that JO shouldn't play, why should Doc ignore that and play him anyways, and risk JO being out for a longer period of time JUST LIKE LAST SEASON?! I'll be slightly insulted if you claim Doc lied about what Ed told him.
I said in another post I don't like him and that ii was speculating...not fact, just my opinion. Like in myopininion Doc lies thru his teeth to protect his players from the Boston media. Its an aadmirable quality in my opinion. Doc is literally the best players coach I have ever seen. Tito francona lasted 8 years in boston with that one single skill. Why would you be insulted? You didn't lie.
Also, if you don't know abouut jo and his injury track record, google it. The guy misses huge chunks of regular seasons with minor injuries every. Single. Year.
I made a mistake by saying something as fact that was only my speculation but you should brush up on jermaine oneals injury history and you might start feeling the same way that I do.
I notice that most of his injuries seem to be related to his leg, and more so his knee. Only last year did it seem like he was having wrist problems. It seems he even tore his meniscus and played through it for a while...
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6614Is that really a minor injury? Hmm, well whatever.
Here's my problem. It's one thing to tell me that JO is brittle. That might just be true. It's not an uncommon thing for brittle guys to get injured. Oh well. But, you're going out of your way to say JO is actually sitting out games cause he just doesn't feel like playing based on these injuries. There's a difference.
Maybe it's like someone here who was also harping on JO last season said; this isn't Miami, this isn't Toronto, this isn't Minnesota, and so forth. This is Boston, and fans here simply care more; that's where he was going with that, and I do agree. So, maybe players on average are given a harder time by the fans over their injuries than they would in another city. That's fine. In a way, I respect that.
But that also to me, in a way, includes guys on our local channels, NESN and CSNNE. That does include guys like Felger and Welsh. Do they have the inside info that infact confirms JO isn't respected by his peers, or are they just in reality sharing opinions like you and Finkel that JO's being a wimp/just dogging it? People seemed to say the same thing about Donny with Rondo, from claiming he had sources saying Danny still wanted to trade Rondo, to the idea that Rondo may have worn out his welcome cause of his attitude. They said Donny simply didn't like Rondo, and wanted to make himself seem more credible than he really is, or what have you. Felger and Welsh may or may not be thought differently in Boston by fans, but do they have anymore inside info than Donny?
I also think, like nickagenta touched on, that people want to push on JO a bit because they feel Stiemsma may infact be more effective, so they wanna hype him up, and hype JO down. Say that Stiemsma will be more reliable, and that JO will just go down with injury again, anyways. Pretty much, that people want to push JO outta town.
I understand Danny almost traded JO for David West. I woulda been great with that. Maybe JO does have half a foot outta Boston, based on his age and his injury history. But while he's here, he's better than most centers out there in a league where most of the great centers are retired, like Shaq.
I don't like the idea that's being downplayed cause JO had to miss one game as a precaution.