We're Not Gonna Blow It Up, OK?

[Who]

KG, I don't see him having any trade value.  Any team that would want him to be that one last guy isn't going to be able to take on his salary.  Danny's not going to take a bad contract back in exchange, either.  I think he retires after this season (hasn't he already said that was his plan), but I don't think he gets traded.  

Yeah, I am thinking this will be KG's last season too.

I thought there was a chance he'd hold on if Boston managed to acquire a superstar player in the summer (say Dwight Howard) but after seeing him in these first few games ... I am thinking that he'll have no interest, physically, in going through another NBA campaign after this year is done.

[cman88]

3 games into the season and we are vastly over-reacting...Knicks got blown out last night, lakers are 1-2, dallas are 0-2

and I expect all those teams to be there in the end. If we lose Friday ill start to panic..but as of right now we can right the ship.

no one wants to lose 3 in a row especially to start the season. but its a weird season where most of these guys are just being thrown in the fire...but its a long season and I think we will right the ship and be fine

[Celtics4ever]

There will always those who jump off the bandwagon or flee in foul weather.   I was heartened by the NYC and MIA games and think PP and Pietrus could make those two winnable.   However, last night's game left a sour taste in my mouth.   Easiest game of the three but we played well below our ability.  While I don't want to blow it up I wish Doc would have let the starters off the hook and played the kids when it was pretty clear that we were not going to get back into it.   I knew this as I am sure many of you did well before the four minute mark.

[ManUp]

If Danny is actively looking to blow it up I think Rondo goes before any of the big three. Rondo is the guy that can bring back the most value in terms of picks and young players, assets a rebuilding team needs. Allen and Garnett can't bring back much more than an overpayed albeit talented player or a terrible contract and weak picks.

[ManchesterCelticsFan]

I'd like to see an expiring contract swap with the C's getting a Draft Pick for the talent down-grade if possible, if the C's play like crap near the trade-deadline. That way the C's get something for them unless they plan on signing Ray Allen or KG to a cheaper contract next year. This will be similar to what Danny did with the Perkins deal last year -- getting something when he knows Perkins will sign elsewhere for more $$$ this year.

[LooseCannon]

Unless there are injuries or a ludicrously good deal falls into the team's lap, I think Ainge should wait until the team plays close to the number of games it would have played in a full pre-season before he makes any big moves.

[CelticsFanNC]

  I think there could be changes made at or before the dead line (a)if the Celtics are clearly out of contention and (b)the right deal comes along.  Ainge will be perfectly happy letting those deals run out and seeing what he can do with the cap space.

  I don't think they will be clearly out of contention though.  I don't think they are truly title contenders either unless a marquee player is hurt in Miami or Chicago but injuries do happen so anything is possible especially in a season lie this one.

  They looked awful old late last season and so far this season so realistically I think the window is closed IMO but I'd be thrilled to be wrong about it.

[dark_lord]

if danny does blow it up via trades, im very nervous.  his track record is poor when it comes to trades (obviously with the exception of kg and ray....but lets not forget b4 that summer, there was serious discussion that danny's job as gm was in jeopardy)

[ManchesterCelticsFan]

 I think there could be changes made at or before the dead line (a)if the Celtics are clearly out of contention and (b)the right deal comes along.  Ainge will be perfectly happy letting those deals run out and seeing what he can do with the cap space.

  I don't think they will be clearly out of contention though.  I don't think they are truly title contenders either unless a marquee player is hurt in Miami or Chicago but injuries do happen so anything is possible especially in a season lie this one.

  They looked awful old late last season and so far this season so realistically I think the window is closed IMO but I'd be thrilled to be wrong about it.

Agreed. I doubt the C's even when fully healthy can beat Miami or Chicago but if they can come close and almost beat them, we always have hope due to the injury bug affecting other top teams. So in that scenario, it'll be more worth letting RA/KG contracts expire.

[ManchesterCelticsFan]

if danny does blow it up via trades, im very nervous.  his track record is poor when it comes to trades (obviously with the exception of kg and ray....but lets not forget b4 that summer, there was serious discussion that danny's job as gm was in jeopardy)

I think he's had more decent/good trades than that but with lesser known, role players. Humans can also learn from their mistakes.

[dark_lord]

if danny does blow it up via trades, im very nervous.  his track record is poor when it comes to trades (obviously with the exception of kg and ray....but lets not forget b4 that summer, there was serious discussion that danny's job as gm was in jeopardy)

I think he's had more decent/good trades than that but with lesser known, role players. Humans can also learn from their mistakes.

really?  think long and hard about his trades since he got here up until the big 3 era....terrible all around imo. then the perk deal obviously sucked in retrospect

[ManUp]

if danny does blow it up via trades, im very nervous.  his track record is poor when it comes to trades (obviously with the exception of kg and ray....but lets not forget b4 that summer, there was serious discussion that danny's job as gm was in jeopardy)

I hear ya.

If you think about, other than recognizing the difference between a contender and pretender, Danny's only true strength has been drafting. Not good news considering we haven't had a rookie worth playing since BBD in 07. Since the trade Danny hasn't really done anything right other than keeping the big three together and resigning Rondo.

[ManchesterCelticsFan]

if danny does blow it up via trades, im very nervous.  his track record is poor when it comes to trades (obviously with the exception of kg and ray....but lets not forget b4 that summer, there was serious discussion that danny's job as gm was in jeopardy)

I think he's had more decent/good trades than that but with lesser known, role players. Humans can also learn from their mistakes.

really?  think long and hard about his trades since he got here up until the big 3 era....terrible all around imo. then the perk deal obviously sucked in retrospect

He got more than most expected for Big Baby who would leave for more money anyways in Brandon Bass in a trade.

Perkins trade sucked for decreasing our chance at winning the championship (which was no gaurantee and may or may not have won anyways) last year.

This year and beyond, the Perkins trade was good as the C's couldn't afford the salary  via salary cap restrictions Oklahoma City are paying him.

[dark_lord]

if danny does blow it up via trades, im very nervous.  his track record is poor when it comes to trades (obviously with the exception of kg and ray....but lets not forget b4 that summer, there was serious discussion that danny's job as gm was in jeopardy)

I think he's had more decent/good trades than that but with lesser known, role players. Humans can also learn from their mistakes.

really?  think long and hard about his trades since he got here up until the big 3 era....terrible all around imo. then the perk deal obviously sucked in retrospect

He got more than most expected for Big Baby who would leave for more money anyways in Brandon Bass in a trade.

Perkins trade sucked for decreasing our chance at winning the championship (which was no gaurantee and may or may not have won anyways) last year.

This year and beyond, the Perkins trade was good as the C's couldn't afford the salary  via salary cap restrictions Oklahoma City are paying him.

i urge you to go back and look at all the trades he has made as our gm since day 1. 

[CelticsFanNC]

 I think there could be changes made at or before the dead line (a)if the Celtics are clearly out of contention and (b)the right deal comes along.  Ainge will be perfectly happy letting those deals run out and seeing what he can do with the cap space.

  I don't think they will be clearly out of contention though.  I don't think they are truly title contenders either unless a marquee player is hurt in Miami or Chicago but injuries do happen so anything is possible especially in a season lie this one.

  They looked awful old late last season and so far this season so realistically I think the window is closed IMO but I'd be thrilled to be wrong about it.

Agreed. I doubt the C's even when fully healthy can beat Miami or Chicago but if they can come close and almost beat them, we always have hope due to the injury bug affecting other top teams. So in that scenario, it'll be more worth letting RA/KG contracts expire.

  At this point though he is going to be looking for different things then he was looking for in the recent past IMO.  Recently he ha had little to work with in terms of assets and in that instance the best you can really hope for is a lateral move. His recent trades for better or worse have been about right now and IMO in every instance made sense even if they didn't work out perfectly.  

Example: (Perkins wasn't coming back and signed for way more then he is worth or will even play up to. There was no way of knowing Green would be out for the year or that the Clips pick would appear to lose a whole lot of value in recent weeks).  That trade makes complete sense even though in hindsight in appears to be a bad decision.

  Now he will be looking for similar things in return like he was looking for pre 2007.  He will be looking for assets whether that be draft pick or young players.  No need to look for expiring contracts as he wont find better ones then the ones he already has.

  I don't see him making a major shake up in hopes of being better now but if we're out of it he may look to stock pile assets as he has done in the past.   Getting a franchise player to Boston is more likely to happen via somehow getting lucky in the lottery or via trade.  He cannot plan on any marquee FA's signing in Boston.