we need someone who can create their own shot BAD! ideas on who?

[JOMVP]

Of guys we can "realistically" get, OJ Mayo isn't bad. I think at this point the Grizzlies would dump him for a first round pick and maybe Avery Bradley or Moore or something. Would just need to make the money work.

[syfy9]

Allen Iverson?

[Rtpas11]

Allen Iverson?

Been saying this for about 2years + now. He will be great on this team.

[wdleehi]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

[snively]

Leandro Barbosa is my favorite target.  Stuck on a bad Toronto team.  Expiring contract.  Good shooter.  Very fast.  Good up-tempo player.  Can penetrate and finish/draw fouls.

A three team deal with Clippers sending JO to LA (to shore up their big man rotation), Barbosa to Boston, and Randy Foye and a couple of our 2nd round picks to Toronto.

Edit- this would be contingent on getting another big like Przybilla or Dampier in free agency.

[guava_wrench]

Let's get guys who get their stats on mediocre teams (Ellis) or who need to get their roles reduced in order for their teams to succeed (Mayo).

What for exactly, since the end of game lineup will be Rondo, Ray, Pierce, Bass and KG most games. Our bench also seems to be scoring.

We need Pierce back and then evaluate from there. Most additions cost a subtraction unless you get a vet min guy. We will not be a perfect team. We won't even be as good as 2008 and that team had its own flaws.

Investing in a guy like Mayo is a questionable move if we have to give up future assets for him. He probably isn't a guy we want around long term and Danny has avoided giving up future assets to build for this season.

[wdleehi]

Paul Pierce

The best part of this idea, it also improves the defense.

[guava_wrench]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

TP. It is easy to create your own shot if you are willing to destroy the success of a team. Get someone like Gordon and you can win 2 or 3 games in a 7 games series spectacularly while he buries your offense in 4 losses.

[Rtpas11]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

Actually you've said the magic word... CREATE! Thats all we're saying here... the Celts don't have a creator unless his name is Pierce. Rondo isn't much of a creator of his own shots also he's just really quick.

[guava_wrench]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

Actually you've said the magic word... CREATE! Thats all we're saying here... the Celts don't have a creator unless his name is Pierce. Rondo isn't much of a creator of his own shots also he's just really quick.

Out offense isn't about iso plays. Actually though, Ray creates many of his own shots, as does Rondo. Rondo is really quick AND he creates his own shots. If not, who are you saying is creating Rondo's shots when he penetrates?

Sounds to me like some people are talking about getting guys who want to shoot every play, but that is not how our offense works. That is what Nate Robinson was, and I'll pass on that.

[raynman]

hey


give sasha  the green light..

i like him..

Give Sasha the 'pink slip' !

[ManUp]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

Actually you've said the magic word... CREATE! Thats all we're saying here... the Celts don't have a creator unless his name is Pierce. Rondo isn't much of a creator of his own shots also he's just really quick.

Out offense isn't about iso plays. Actually though, Ray creates many of his own shots, as does Rondo. Rondo is really quick AND he creates his own shots. If not, who are you saying is creating Rondo's shots when he penetrates?

Sounds to me like some people are talking about getting guys who want to shoot every play, but that is not how our offense works. That is what Nate Robinson was, and I'll pass on that.

Ray's terrible when he has to creat his own shot. He has some success against scrubs, but even then it's iffy. The less Ray has to dribble the better off he is.

[BASS_THUMPER]

iverson would fit good here..

while watchin the game i was feelin that..

      rondo gettin beat up out there..
                                          iverson~

play maker

[guava_wrench]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

Actually you've said the magic word... CREATE! Thats all we're saying here... the Celts don't have a creator unless his name is Pierce. Rondo isn't much of a creator of his own shots also he's just really quick.

Out offense isn't about iso plays. Actually though, Ray creates many of his own shots, as does Rondo. Rondo is really quick AND he creates his own shots. If not, who are you saying is creating Rondo's shots when he penetrates?

Sounds to me like some people are talking about getting guys who want to shoot every play, but that is not how our offense works. That is what Nate Robinson was, and I'll pass on that.

Ray's terrible when he has to creat his own shot. He has some success against scrubs, but even then it's iffy. The less Ray has to dribble the better off he is.

I agree that Ray is a horrible dribbler, but he can get to the rim on his own. It is when he backs out and gets trapped that he is an embarrassment. He also makes a lot of bad kickout passes on penetration. But both of those are side issues. If Ray stopped thinking about the team, he would make less bad passes and would create more shots for himself like he has in the past.

Historically, Ray has created his shot more but we have made his game more narrow on the Celtics due to our system. We would do the same to most other shooters. Doc did the same with Pierce. This has made Pierce more efficient and a winner instead of just a show-off.

Before the KG trade Pierce and Ray both dribbled a lot. It is Doc's offense that takes the ball out of their hands. I would love to have a Wade or even a Brandon Roy type who can get himself a GOOD shot off of the dribble, but we seem to be mentioning guys who just want to shoot, no matter the shot, who would cost us too much considering Danny does't want to sacrifice the future for the sake of adding pieces for this season.

[mcshane41]

KG isnt a scorer anymore
allen cant get passed his man anymore

i dont kno who but we need someone any ideas on who?

oj mayo is the only guy i can think of thats in the market

I got one: Rajon Rondo. He doesn't need to hit 23 footers, he just needs to drive the hole and make layups or take the FT's. That alone opens up space to let these great shooter hurt teams. Even if he's on;y hitting 60-70% of his free throw the fouls and need to protect the rim alone help the spacing. It worked perfectly in 1st half of 2010/2011. And his aggressiveness in two games has led to plenty of scoring, it's the lack of a real center that hurts us more (dreaming of Perkins....