I'm really liking the combo of Bradley and Moore at the backup SG

[bfrombleacher]

Unfortunately I wasn't able to catch the game but didn't Bradley nab 4 fouls? This is one of his first games mind you and he did score against the Knicks' second unit at ease. I'm a bit disappointed by his lack of progression (judging from the preseason game and the open practice) but I'm not giving up yet.

[Snakehead]

guys AVery Bradley sucks. he hasn't improved one iota this year from last. i love his attitude and i wish he was better, but he isnt.

id love for him to prove me wrong

You have come to this conclusion based on a single preseason game?

Good to know. 

TP for being one of the few voices of reason.

Guys, you are saying we should get rid of a very talented, and VERY YOUNG, player because he is struggling some on offense.  Did you miss when he was pushing Calderon out to half court and disrupting the TOR offense completely?  Sure, dumb fouls and all that okay, but I don't see the issue.  Look at his D-League numbers, look at that Knicks game, there is promise.

bradley reminds me of a tony allen type player...good defensively but inept on offense.

And this is kind of funny to me.  The TA comparison is apt because he has the same offensive issues, but do you realize TA is actually a good player and helped lead Memphis deep into the playoffs?  Just like TA, Avery can contribute offensively as a finisher and a guy who runs the floor.  That's fine in my book.

I'm tired of people bashing players because they have glaring weaknesses.  Remember they also have glaring strengths (yes I just created that saying).  Rondo can't shoot, fine, but he is the best passer in the league.

[bruinsandceltics]

guys AVery Bradley sucks. he hasn't improved one iota this year from last. i love his attitude and i wish he was better, but he isnt.

id love for him to prove me wrong

You have come to this conclusion based on a single preseason game?

Good to know. 

TP for being one of the few voices of reason.

Guys, you are saying we should get rid of a very talented, and VERY YOUNG, player because he is struggling some on offense.  Did you miss when he was pushing Calderon out to half court and disrupting the TOR offense completely?  Sure, dumb fouls and all that okay, but I don't see the issue.  Look at his D-League numbers, look at that Knicks game, there is promise.

bradley reminds me of a tony allen type player...good defensively but inept on offense.

And this is kind of funny to me.  The TA comparison is apt because he has the same offensive issues, but do you realize TA is actually a good player and helped lead Memphis deep into the playoffs?  Just like TA, Avery can contribute offensively as a finisher and a guy who runs the floor.  That's fine in my book.

I'm tired of people bashing players because they have glaring weaknesses.  Remember they also have glaring strengths (yes I just created that saying).  Rondo can't shoot, fine, but he is the best passer in the league.

TP right back. Good post.

Seriously, preventing baskets is just as important as scoring them...even if it isn't as flashy.

[BostonArizona]

I think people may be just a bit too high on Moore.

Welp, heres hoping.

[LooseCannon]

All Bradley needs to do is find a favorite spot or two on the floor and work on his range for a catch-and-shoot jumper so that he can be a mere 30% three-point shooter and that plus his defense will keep him in the league for as long as he remains a plus defender.  Some players have taken a while to find their three-point shot.  See, for example, how long it took for DeShawn Stevenson (a player Bradley has been compared to) to have a credible enough three that he could be seen as a three-and-D wing.  His upside is much better than that, but that's Bradley's path to a journeyman NBA career.

He was 0-5 in the NBA, 3-8 in the D-League last season and 42-112 in college, if you want stats.

[syfy9]

Man, we have a short back court.
 
Rondo, Dooling
Ray, Bradley, Moore

Hopefully we can get a decent sized defender - I feel like Daniels is going to get injured soon enough.

[cypruss187]

Seems to me that with his quickness, Avery Bradley could be someone that should take the ball to the bucket more, but given his smaller stature, would benefit from learning a pull up jumper.  As he is going to be playing some 2 guard in our system, maybe Ray could mentor the kid to shoot shoot shoot in practice, on game days etc.  Defensively he is already better than most of our roster.  The offense will come.  AB is very young and will improve once he realizes that he needs to play to his strengths and not try to be something he thinks he should be (ie jump shooter only).  Rondo's J has marginally improved, no reason to believe AB's won't either.  Finding lock down defenders, especialy at his age, are far more rare since most young players want to impress by stuffing the stat sheet - AB knows he can get burn by stopping the other teams PG/SG.  We preach defense first, so that is a good thing for AB.

[2short]

Bradley is a great example of a kid who should have stayed in college.  I think if he works at his game he can be an nba player but not for a few years and probably not as a celtic.  A late bloomer maybe, there is so much competition in the nba hard to see how he can improve his handle so much to get minutes on a roster though.  He does look better than giddens

[Evantime34]

Moore, I think will be solid, he can hit shots and more often than not makes the right decision. His on the ball defense is not great but he rotated pretty well and was in decent help position most of the time.

Bradley is quick, strong and athletic. He looks lost on offense but to be fair with the second unit he often was left to create his own shot. He is athletic enough to score off cuts when he is the forgotten man on offense. Due to this and his defensive prowess I think he will be best in spot minutes with the first team.

[papa shuttlesworth]

I was really impressed with what I saw from Moore (as well as Bass and Wilcox). But I think we need to see him in a few more games before we can form an objective opinion.

I remember being really excited about Patrick O'Bryant after he had an awesome pre-season game and, umm, that ended up being wrong.

[guava_wrench]

I only saw the second half. In the fourth quarter with the subs in, Toronto caught up pretty easily. When Moore hit the 2 shots (and when he hit JJJ with the pass after), his methodical style was effective - but what about the previous possessions where Toronto locked us down? They are not a good defensive team.

Moore's style reminds me of Brandon Roy - methodical and surprisingly effective (though, of course, not in Roy's league). I didn't see him quickly catch and shoot, so I am unable to agree with Eddie House comparisons. Seems to have good value for his draft position.

It was a fun final few minutes watching the J.V. finish off the game, but I need to see more before coming to any conclusions about the non-established guys.

[pearljammer10]

bradley reminds me of a tony allen type player...good defensively but inept on offense.

Moore is like a younger eddie house...lacking in athleticism so he isnt as good defensively..but the kid can shoot

That's exactly who I would compare each of them too. And I hope they can develop those skills and more

I can see the Allen comparison somewhat... Except I think Tony was a much better defender and was also a little better on offense. He at least had some muscle on him as well. Bradley can move his feet but on offense he looks like he has no idea what he is doing.


Moore I dont know too much about but I think he has more potential then Eddie House. He looks like a good shooter, but also I think he has playmaking ability and some defense ability... Two things Eddie greatly lacked.

[Evantime34]

bradley reminds me of a tony allen type player...good defensively but inept on offense.

Moore is like a younger eddie house...lacking in athleticism so he isnt as good defensively..but the kid can shoot

That's exactly who I would compare each of them too. And I hope they can develop those skills and more

I can see the Allen comparison somewhat... Except I think Tony was a much better defender and was also a little better on offense. He at least had some muscle on him as well. Bradley can move his feet but on offense he looks like he has no idea what he is doing.


Moore I dont know too much about but I think he has more potential then Eddie House. He looks like a good shooter, but also I think he has playmaking ability and some defense ability... Two things Eddie greatly lacked.

TA is a little bit more explosive of an athlete with better handle. However, Bradley no matter how hard he tries will not make as many questionable decisions that make me scream at my tv as TA did.

[TripleOT]

I can see why people want to compare TA to Bradley, since they can both move their feet in order to stay in front of offensive players, and both look lost on offense, but Tony Allen has NBA size for his position and even though he was shaky with his offense in Boston, he was at least efficient, because he could take the ball to the hoop (1.31 points per shot, actually, and surprisingly, better than Ray Allen's career 1.29 pps)

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.  if this guy can't make a few layups in garbage time, how is he going to be an efficient rotation player? 

[Evantime34]

I can see why people want to compare TA to Bradley, since they can both move their feet in order to stay in front of offensive players, and both look lost on offense, but Tony Allen has NBA size for his position and even though he was shaky with his offense in Boston, he was at least efficient, because he could take the ball to the hoop (1.31 points per shot, actually, and surprisingly, better than Ray Allen's career 1.29 pps)

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.  if this guy can't make a few layups in garbage time, how is he going to be an efficient rotation player? 

Bradley is still very young. TA was 23 during his first year in the league. Avery was 19. He could and probably will improve. It is too early to make a determination on him either way. What would TA's pps be in his rookie year if he was three/four years younger in his rookie season. I think Bradley will be an efficient rotation player for the Celtics, if not this year then probably the year after.