I'm really liking the combo of Bradley and Moore at the backup SG

[RyNye]

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.

It's pretty unfair to say this, because Bradley didn't play enough minutes to make his numbers statistically significant, so it's basically impossible to compare his metrics to other players. Among players who had enough minutes for the metrics to be statistically significant (of which there were only 118), the lowest pps in the league was 1.07 (O.J. Mayo). Among ALL players, there were some that were far worse than Bradley. Luke Walton, for example, also has .77ppshot, but at a larger sample size. And players like Jason Kapono with 0.57. And, of course, there were four players with a 0, but none of them played in more than 2 games.

[TripleOT]

I can see why people want to compare TA to Bradley, since they can both move their feet in order to stay in front of offensive players, and both look lost on offense, but Tony Allen has NBA size for his position and even though he was shaky with his offense in Boston, he was at least efficient, because he could take the ball to the hoop (1.31 points per shot, actually, and surprisingly, better than Ray Allen's career 1.29 pps)

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.  if this guy can't make a few layups in garbage time, how is he going to be an efficient rotation player? 

Bradley is still very young. TA was 23 during his first year in the league. Avery was 19. He could and probably will improve. It is too early to make a determination on him either way. What would TA's pps be in his rookie year if he was three/four years younger in his rookie season. I think Bradley will be an efficient rotation player for the Celtics, if not this year then probably the year after.

So AB was too young last season, but you see him contributing this one?  Maybe we shouldn't compare him to TA, or anyone else who isn't under 21.  

I don't see Bradley aging fast enough to ever contribute with the Big 3.  

[TripleOT]

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.

It's pretty unfair to say this, because Bradley didn't play enough minutes to make his numbers statistically significant, so it's basically impossible to compare his metrics to other players. Among players who had enough minutes for the metrics to be statistically significant (of which there were only 118), the lowest pps in the league was 1.07 (O.J. Mayo). Among ALL players, there were some that were far worse than Bradley. Luke Walton, for example, also has .77ppshot, but at a larger sample size. And players like Jason Kapono with 0.57. And, of course, there were four players with a 0, but none of them played in more than 2 games.

I was trying to make the point that if this scrub can't make a few layups in garbage time, how his he going to do anything as a rotation player. 

[Evantime34]

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.

It's pretty unfair to say this, because Bradley didn't play enough minutes to make his numbers statistically significant, so it's basically impossible to compare his metrics to other players. Among players who had enough minutes for the metrics to be statistically significant (of which there were only 118), the lowest pps in the league was 1.07 (O.J. Mayo). Among ALL players, there were some that were far worse than Bradley. Luke Walton, for example, also has .77ppshot, but at a larger sample size. And players like Jason Kapono with 0.57. And, of course, there were four players with a 0, but none of them played in more than 2 games.

I was trying to make the point that if this scrub can't make a few layups in garbage time, how his he going to do anything as a rotation player. 

He made more than a few layups in garbage time of the Knicks game last year.

[TripleOT]

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.

It's pretty unfair to say this, because Bradley didn't play enough minutes to make his numbers statistically significant, so it's basically impossible to compare his metrics to other players. Among players who had enough minutes for the metrics to be statistically significant (of which there were only 118), the lowest pps in the league was 1.07 (O.J. Mayo). Among ALL players, there were some that were far worse than Bradley. Luke Walton, for example, also has .77ppshot, but at a larger sample size. And players like Jason Kapono with 0.57. And, of course, there were four players with a 0, but none of them played in more than 2 games.

I was trying to make the point that if this scrub can't make a few layups in garbage time, how his he going to do anything as a rotation player. 

He made more than a few layups in garbage time of the Knicks game last year.

The guy played one good game in an entire season, in a meaningless last game of the year. If that's what you have to hang your hat on to prove that AB is an NBA player, good luck. 

[Chris]

I like Moore a lot...Bradley, not so much.  The fact that the rookie with a week of training camp looks 100 times more confident and comfortable out there than the second year player is telling. 

[LooseCannon]

Bradley is a great example of a kid who should have stayed in college. 

He was probably one of those players who came out early to lock up a better salary due to the lockout.  I do believe he will be at least an end-of-the-rotation player somewhere by what would have been his second NBA season if he had come out after three years in college.  I can see Ray Allen staying with the Celtics and playing as long as he is an above average shooting guard and Bradley having a shot at being the heir apparent to inherit the starting job in a way that Big Baby clearly was not the guy to follow KG.

[Evantime34]

Bradley, mostly in mop up duty for the Cs, is at .77 ppshot.  That's got to be among the lowest in the entire league.

It's pretty unfair to say this, because Bradley didn't play enough minutes to make his numbers statistically significant, so it's basically impossible to compare his metrics to other players. Among players who had enough minutes for the metrics to be statistically significant (of which there were only 118), the lowest pps in the league was 1.07 (O.J. Mayo). Among ALL players, there were some that were far worse than Bradley. Luke Walton, for example, also has .77ppshot, but at a larger sample size. And players like Jason Kapono with 0.57. And, of course, there were four players with a 0, but none of them played in more than 2 games.

I was trying to make the point that if this scrub can't make a few layups in garbage time, how his he going to do anything as a rotation player. 

He made more than a few layups in garbage time of the Knicks game last year.

The guy played one good game in an entire season, in a meaningless last game of the year. If that's what you have to hang your hat on to prove that AB is an NBA player, good luck. 

I'm not hanging my hat on anything. I am not saying he's a rotation player right now. What I'm saying is you can't count him out after only one season in which he didn't even have a training camp. It's too early to make a judgement on him.

[rondohondo]

I like Moore a lot...Bradley, not so much.  The fact that the rookie with a week of training camp looks 100 times more confident and comfortable out there than the second year player is telling. 

Bradley is still 2 years younger than moore ( Who had 4 years of college to develop) and they are moving him from PG to SG , its going to take time for him to feel comfortable. If he can just get a pull up J from 18 ft the kid would be a real weapon. I would hate to give up on a young, strong , quick lock down defender type. He is making like 500k its not like he is eating up salary or anything .

[Chris]

I like Moore a lot...Bradley, not so much.  The fact that the rookie with a week of training camp looks 100 times more confident and comfortable out there than the second year player is telling. 

Bradley is still 2 years younger than moore ( Who had 4 years of college to develop) and they are moving him from PG to SG , its going to take time for him to feel comfortable. If he can just get a pull up J from 18 ft the kid would be a real weapon. I would hate to give up on a young, strong , quick lock down defender type. He is making like 500k its not like he is eating up salary or anything .

That's fine.  I still don't feel the least bit confident of him playing any meaningful minutes in the NBA this season.  Maybe we need to wait until he is the same age as Moore?

Also, he is making $1.5 million.  But I am not saying cut him.  I just don't think he is ready (and perhaps he will never be).

[Celtics18]

Avery Bradley's defensive prowess and energy level are going to keep him in the running to be the tenth man on this squad.  

Right now I see that position as a battle between Moore, Bradley, and Pavlovic.  If Pavlovic wins the job that would mean playing Marquis some more minutes at the two, if it's either of the youngsters then it's more small forward for Marquis.

Of course, there's also the distinct possibility that Doc will just go with a nine man rotation with Dooling splitting time at the 1 and the 2 and Marquis splitting his time at the 2 and the 3.

Anyway, I'm hoping one of those three guys mentioned above steps up and earns a spot in a 10 man rotation.  I don't really care which one of them that is.  I will trust Doc's judgment on that.

[Kane3387]

Bradley played some really nice defense on Calderon yesterday. He needs time to get more acclimated to the speed of an NBA game. That can only happen if he is played. My thinking is this...

*Even if we gave it our all, we would not finish above Chi or Miami in the rankings
*Only Chi or Miami are teams it would really help to have HCA over
*Does it really matter if we go on the road vs Miami or Chi in the 1st compared to the 2nd round

*Thus go the route we went in 2010. Be healthy and well rested for the playoffs. Sit the big three out regularly. Even if we get in as the 8th seed, just get into the playoffs and be as close to 100% as possible.

Sure we may have a terrible record and have to go on the road, but I think HCA in the first round is overrated for this Celtic's team. As long as the big 4 are healthy that is most important. As a result some of the young players will get valuable experience and maybe that translates into a contributor or two out of those guys for the playoffs. It also gives us a better draft pick.

[kozlodoev]

I like Moore a lot...Bradley, not so much.  The fact that the rookie with a week of training camp looks 100 times more confident and comfortable out there than the second year player is telling. 

Bradley is still 2 years younger than moore ( Who had 4 years of college to develop) and they are moving him from PG to SG , its going to take time for him to feel comfortable. If he can just get a pull up J from 18 ft the kid would be a real weapon. I would hate to give up on a young, strong , quick lock down defender type. He is making like 500k its not like he is eating up salary or anything .

What?! They're moving him to SG because he was uncomfortable at PG. Maybe he needs to look for another profession then, if we expect him to be uncomfortable more or less everywhere on the floor. 

[theswitch]

I like Moore a lot...Bradley, not so much.  The fact that the rookie with a week of training camp looks 100 times more confident and comfortable out there than the second year player is telling. 

To be fair, JJJ looked just as lost as Avery did last year. I'm going to take the glass half full approach here and say it's normal for Avery and JJJ to be uncomfortable at first and take a little time to develop, especially on this team, whereas Moore is simply a mature exception.

[Chris]

I like Moore a lot...Bradley, not so much.  The fact that the rookie with a week of training camp looks 100 times more confident and comfortable out there than the second year player is telling. 

To be fair, JJJ looked just as lost as Avery did last year. I'm going to take the glass half full approach here and say it's normal for Avery and JJJ to be uncomfortable at first and take a little time to develop, especially on this team, whereas Moore is simply a mature exception.

Absolutely true. 

Althoug JJJ looked like that 1 week after camp opened.  Avery still looks lost 14 months after his first camp opened.