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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 03:47:24 PM »

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To be honest, I don't like Dooling's game at all. Nate just got bought out by the Thunder recently. Can we bring him back at the veteran minimum?

What is it about it that you don't like? Besides his game, he teaches our younger players and tries to do his best to help not only this team, but everyone on it to be the best and win. He is a true PG. This guy understands umbuntu and LIVES IT. He does everything a Celtic should do.. this is Eddie House II.

mention ONE of the things above, that Nate does better than Dooling.. (no hate on nate, but lets be realistic here  ::)
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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:19:01 PM »

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Not even comparable, Dooling is far superior to Nate. He's a true pg, a team leader, and a smart player. Nate is none of those things.

My thoughts exactly. Doolings skills might not be the highest for a PG (even though I think he is a solid player) but he can command and run an offense, something the second unit has been lacking for quite sometime. He isnt afraid to bark out orders on plays and get people set up where they're supposed to be. His veteran leadership in that area should help us tremendously.

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 04:56:58 PM »

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Dooling is so much better it makes me feel bad for you guys that don't see it.

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 05:08:51 PM »

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Not even comparable, Dooling is far superior to Nate. He's a true pg, a team leader, and a smart player. Nate is none of those things.

My thoughts exactly. Doolings skills might not be the highest for a PG (even though I think he is a solid player) but he can command and run an offense, something the second unit has been lacking for quite sometime. He isnt afraid to bark out orders on plays and get people set up where they're supposed to be. His veteran leadership in that area should help us tremendously.
Exactly and he can be a solid threat from three unlike Nate who was the exact opposite and a chucker
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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2011, 05:46:47 PM »

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I thought Dolling played very well last year when he had to start in place of an injured Jennings.  I'm glad he is on this team. 

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2011, 05:54:25 PM »

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The Goods
Dooling: Able to be a court leader, mini veteran, responsible, can hit 3s, has good hands, can play at dual guard positions.
Nate: can hit 3s, can create offense, can be a leader, can catch fire, doesn't complain about minutes, heathly as much as Dooling.

The Bads
Dooling: Can't catch fire, not a 'playoff' guy, not very athletic, can't lead a team to success at all times
Nate: can be a hog, unconsistent, pull up just like Baby, doesn't know how to stop, can't be the 'dunking Nate' with us

The Comparision
Dooling > Nate

The Verdict
Why not take both?!? We got room at the guard spot and Green opened up a roster spot! Plus we need someone to provide spark to our bench's offense!!! Don't be blind Celtic fans!  :-\
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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2011, 05:57:25 PM »

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Not even comparable, Dooling is far superior to Nate. He's a true pg, a team leader, and a smart player. Nate is none of those things.

My thoughts exactly. Doolings skills might not be the highest for a PG (even though I think he is a solid player) but he can command and run an offense, something the second unit has been lacking for quite sometime. He isnt afraid to bark out orders on plays and get people set up where they're supposed to be. His veteran leadership in that area should help us tremendously.
Exactly and he can be a solid threat from three unlike Nate who was the exact opposite and a chucker

The sad part about Nate is that he couldn't even make it playing for a coach who preaches chucking for a living in NY. DiAntoni hated him with a passion.

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2011, 06:26:21 PM »

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Dooling is so much better it makes me feel bad for you guys that don't see it.

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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2011, 06:44:25 PM »

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Not even comparable, Dooling is far superior to Nate. He's a true pg, a team leader, and a smart player. Nate is none of those things.

My thoughts exactly. Doolings skills might not be the highest for a PG (even though I think he is a solid player) but he can command and run an offense, something the second unit has been lacking for quite sometime. He isnt afraid to bark out orders on plays and get people set up where they're supposed to be. His veteran leadership in that area should help us tremendously.
Exactly and he can be a solid threat from three unlike Nate who was the exact opposite and a chucker

The sad part about Nate is that he couldn't even make it playing for a coach who preaches chucking for a living in NY. DiAntoni hated him with a passion.
Um, what's wrong with 17 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds, and a steal?

Nate belongs in a Crawford/Mayo/Smith 6th man chucker-role.  He can fill up the scoreboard quickly as a volume scorer, but expecting anything else out of him is a waste.  Leaving that system for a ball-moving team with other competent bench players and nobody else to initiate the offense was horrible for his career.
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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2011, 06:52:46 PM »

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Dooling is so much better it makes me feel bad for you guys that don't see it.
nate has the better career averages

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2011, 07:00:03 PM »

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Not even comparable, Dooling is far superior to Nate. He's a true pg, a team leader, and a smart player. Nate is none of those things.

My thoughts exactly. Doolings skills might not be the highest for a PG (even though I think he is a solid player) but he can command and run an offense, something the second unit has been lacking for quite sometime. He isnt afraid to bark out orders on plays and get people set up where they're supposed to be. His veteran leadership in that area should help us tremendously.
Exactly and he can be a solid threat from three unlike Nate who was the exact opposite and a chucker

The sad part about Nate is that he couldn't even make it playing for a coach who preaches chucking for a living in NY. DiAntoni hated him with a passion.
Um, what's wrong with 17 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds, and a steal?

Nate belongs in a Crawford/Mayo/Smith 6th man chucker-role.  He can fill up the scoreboard quickly as a volume scorer, but expecting anything else out of him is a waste.  Leaving that system for a ball-moving team with other competent bench players and nobody else to initiate the offense was horrible for his career.

Ask DiAntoni, he's the one who benched him, argued with him, and eventually asked for him to be traded. Nate didn't decide to leave a situation where he was putting up 17-4-4, he was booted from a team where he was putting up about 13-3-2 and eventually benched after not seeing eye-eye with the coach. Big difference right there. The year he put up the numbers you quoted was the year the Knicks were an NBDL team and Scal could have put up better numbers on that team.

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2011, 07:01:42 PM »

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Dooling is so much better it makes me feel bad for you guys that don't see it.
nate has the better career averages

Nate also ran wild chucking shots on a NY team that had no business calling themselves an NBA team.

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2011, 07:59:15 PM »

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Dooling is so much better it makes me feel bad for you guys that don't see it.
nate has the better career averages

Nate also ran wild chucking shots on a NY team that had no business calling themselves an NBA team.
Keyon Dooling wasn't exactly on dream teams

Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2011, 08:25:41 PM »

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I'm not sure the guys criticizing Dooling have seen him play much other than our first preseason game and perhaps a few Nets games?
The guy dumps all over Nate Robinson. He can shoot and defend.

Don't judge guys and their future with us off of one non-factor game.
Point Guards need a bit of time to adjust to their team mates tendencies and work out their habits.
This guy will be able to run an offense 5X better than Delonte or Nate- who are shooting guards trapped in a small mans body.
Give him 10 games to warm up and you'll probably be pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Dooling Or Nate?
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2011, 08:28:19 PM »

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I love Nate (truly I do) but we have Nate 2.0 in Bradley. Bradley has a much higher ceiling anyway.