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Disabled Player Exception
« on: December 17, 2011, 11:45:35 AM »

Offline heitingas

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Do we get a disabled player exception ? those 5.9 million would enable us to sign some great backup wing, like Outlaw for a year.

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 11:53:19 AM »

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I wouldn't think so.

Jeff Green never had a contract here (this season). Failed the physical and voided the deal before it became finalized. 

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 11:56:07 AM »

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Isn't it half of his salary of 9M, so 4.5M? Regardless it's all to Stern, he could easily gives us the full 9M.


Cuttino Mobley
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By MARC BERMAN

INDIANAPOLIS - Knicks president Donnie Walsh said at the morning shootaround here that the Knicks got denied yesterday for the $4.5 million disabled exception for Cuttino Mobley. That's a big blow, as Walsh could have used a slice of it in a trade now or this summer. Walsh said he was not going to sign a player with it this season, but they could have broken it up and signed two this summer. Or signed one and traded the portion that was left. There was a lot of flexibility.

Walsh won't waive Mobley yet. He'll see if Mobley's contract can be included in a trade by the Feb. 19th deadline. Again, Walsh is in no rush to sign a player or open up a roster spot, which is bad news for Stephon Marbury. So no Patrick Ewing Jr. just yet.

The league ruled Mobley's injury occurred before the trade - his hypertrophic cardiomyopathy ailment. Perhaps, but the Knicks get penalized for diagnosing the career-ending ailment and potentially saving Mobley's life. Bad call by the NBA. The Knicks should have gotten the exception on the spirit of the rule.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/knicks/archives/2009/01/nba_turns_down.html

Injury Exception
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 11:58:16 AM »

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Jeff Green is out for the whole season before the season starts. I think this time we're eligible for the injury exception. Maybe we can sign a legitimate bench with it. Any thought?

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 12:12:17 PM »

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From ESPN

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Disabled player exception

• 2005 CBA: Five years, starting at the lesser of half the replaced player's salary or the average salary, with 8 percent raises.

• 2011 CBA: One year, starting at the lesser of half the replaced player's salary or the non-taxpayer midlevel exception.

• Who benefits? This exception provides teams with the ability to sign an emergency replacement for an injured player. Under the previous CBA, the player could be signed to a five-year contract, meaning a permanent replacement could be obtained. This also opened the door to situations where the injured player returned to the team while his replacement was still on the roster. By reducing to one year in the new CBA, this exception will more closely match its intent -- to provide a short-term emergency replacement for an injured player. Teams will now have to fend for themselves if the player's injury keeps him out for more than a year.

Question-- Green was unsigned, so do they use his intended salary here, or the qualifying offer?  (IIRC, his QO was around $7m).

Do the Cs get any relief at all, since green was unsigned (although a RFA and theoretically a roster asset.

The NBA really needs to give the Cs as much largesse as possible in this situation if they again want the great storyline of Old HOFers against Young Guns in the EC playoffs (with either the Bulls or the heat).

AK-47 would be an excellent one year solution to this situation.   

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 12:18:47 PM »

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My thought here is that Green here was not signed because he flunked the physical. So we are back to the QO of 5.7 million he was eligible for. I think insurance would pick up. Part. Of that tab to give Jeff Green and his family financial support during his season of recovery. Tough brreak for the kid.
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Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 12:35:10 PM »

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not happening

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Incidentally, replacing him with injury exception would cost Boston $28 million A) have to pay Green, b) have to pay new guy, c) tax on both

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 12:36:52 PM »

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Agreed that Celts will get nothing. Green does not have a contract so there is nothing for the league to give the Celts half of. Vet min is all they will have.

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 12:38:16 PM »

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not happening

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Incidentally, replacing him with injury exception would cost Boston $28 million A) have to pay Green, b) have to pay new guy, c) tax on both

Ouch.

If the intent of the DPE is to protect a team if a roster asset is lost, why wouldn't they just use the amount Green was slotted to receive on a QO and halve that amount as an exemption for the Cs to use?  

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 12:55:35 PM »

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We will not get s**t

For some sad reason I tend to agree with you on this...

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 12:58:00 PM »

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Good news - looks like Celts may get 50% of salary as long as Nov 30 date is extended considering lock-out started season late.
DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (if the player is disabled between July 1 and November 30) or the following season (if the player is disabled after November 30). This exception can also be granted in the event of a player's death. This exception can only be used to acquire one player. The maximum salary for the replacement player is 50% of the injured player's salary, or the average salary, whichever is less (see question number 25 for the definition of "average salary"). Approval from the league (based on a determination by an NBA-designated physician) is required for this exception to be used. This exception can be used to sign a free agent, or to create room to accept a salary in trade. When used for trade, the team may acquire a player whose salary (including any trade bonus) is up to 100% of this exception plus $100,000 (not 125%).

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 12:59:19 PM »

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Good news - looks like Celts may get 50% of salary as long as Nov 30 date is extended considering lock-out started season late.
DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (if the player is disabled between July 1 and November 30) or the following season (if the player is disabled after November 30). This exception can also be granted in the event of a player's death. This exception can only be used to acquire one player. The maximum salary for the replacement player is 50% of the injured player's salary, or the average salary, whichever is less (see question number 25 for the definition of "average salary"). Approval from the league (based on a determination by an NBA-designated physician) is required for this exception to be used. This exception can be used to sign a free agent, or to create room to accept a salary in trade. When used for trade, the team may acquire a player whose salary (including any trade bonus) is up to 100% of this exception plus $100,000 (not 125%).

The problem is, Jeff Green does not have a salary now. I hope they can get something, but not too confident.

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2011, 01:00:48 PM »

Offline 33_Larry Legend_33

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We're basically toast on this because we're OVER the tax threshold.  Green's contract not being on the books only saves us tax money, but does nothing for us with regard to signing other players (if I understand everything correctly).

Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2011, 01:06:45 PM »

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Re: Disabled Player Exception
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 01:15:01 PM »

Offline celtforlife

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Good article. Sucks that they can sign player with disabled player exception but hardly worth $27 million to sign a new player to $4.5 million contract unless Danny can come up with a miracle and ownership wants a big write off.