Bynum over Lopez????

[ScoobyDoo]

I just read on Real GM that Orlando has temporarily suspended trade talks with New Jersey and expected that Howard would remain put for the foreseeable future.

Then this snippet... "Orlando prefers the Laker's talent of Bynum and Gasol over a package built around Brook Lopez. Really?

1. Gasol is 32 - he's done in 3-4 years.         
2. Bynum - Injury prone, petulant, immature, punkish

So you'd rather trade away you're generational and franchise center for an immature, injury prone center who averages about 11 points and 9 boards a game and also only 50 games played per year over the last four seasons due to injury - "knee" injuries.

How incompetent is the Orlando management?

Lopez may not be the defensive center Bynum is, but he can stay on the floor and he averages 20 and 7 a night. He's a very good young center. You combine the immaturity of Bynum and i scratch my head wondering why you'd want him on your team.   

[mkogav]

How incompetent is the Orlando management?   

Rashard Lewis & Gilbert Arenas

Mk

[Liam W]

Lopez is garbage

His rebounding skills are garbage, Id have Bynum any day over Lopez.

Bynum is more aggresive than Lopez.
Lopez is soft as hell

No Thanks

[Moreover]

I'd take Bynum, with injuries and immaturity concerns, over Lopez in a heartbeat.

Talent is too much to pass on. Lopez is a very good complimentary player, but those are much easier to find.

[ScoobyDoo]

Thanks and great reminder.

It's not that I just hate the Lakers either. If I'm trading away a "Franchise CENTER" it is NOT going to be for Andrew Bynum. The guy can barely walk half the time and he is just not a personality I'd want to build a team around. And Gasol, for what?...2 years before he's breaking down all over the court?

Nah.... I want another Franchise guy or "very" promising young players and picks I can build around long term.

I figure give me Lopez and a good young small forward. Then I can go out and attract a great young and defensive PF...put a scoring SF in the mix...I'm on my way again...

Bynum? Not in a hundred years...



  

[ScoobyDoo]

If Bynum were not so injury prone, I'd be more willing to take him on as I do understand his value, when healthy...

But you combine the immaturity AND the injuries? I've got no faith in the long term viability of building around that kid.

For me, Lopez doesn't have to be the linchpin on my team.

I put a great defensive PF next to him. I load my talent on the wings and point.

Lakers, Celtics, Mavs - none had dominating centers on their way to rings, whether because of talent level or injuries.

Bulls teams - same.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Lopez is soft as hell.

Nobody that grinds it out for 82 games three years straight, 35 minutes a game, is "soft as hell."

Sure, he needs more of a nose for the ball, 6 rebounds a game is embarrassing. But he's also a year younger, and, like Bynum, should still show some improvement. He already has a better offensive game.

[CelticSooner]

How incompetent is the Orlando management?  

Baby 26 million

[clawlin]

Lopez vs. Bynum is a touch call and it really depends on the person.

I go with Lopez.

Andrew Bynum is a mess.  When he is on, he is dominant.  Hes got the talent to be a top center in the league and can be a number 2 option on a championship team.  He bullies players in the paint and can clog up the opposing offense.  However, hes extremely immature.  We all see what he does.  He knocked NOT ONLY Barea out of the air, but Gerald Wallace as well.  He has anger issues.  And he isnt going to be playing for the first five games of the season.  Also, hes injury prone and its been a problem for the Lakers.  And being injury prone doesnt just go away, unless youre Grant Hill.

Lopez is one of the top 3 offensive centers in the league.  He can shoot the ball and can convert.  This last season seems like an outlier, he suffered after coming back from mononucleosis.  Also, he had Humphries gobbling up his rebounds.  Humphries averaged 10 rebounds, Lopez averaged 6.  16 rebounds isnt a bad amount for a starting frontcourt.  Also, he has not missed a game yet in his career and has played so much.

Sure, Lopez may not be dominant.  But the argument between the two is closer than most think.

[jdz101]

How incompetent is the Orlando management?   

Rashard Lewis & Gilbert Arenas

Mk

I'll add to that.

The re-addition of hedo turkoglu.

(funnily enough whenever I try to type "turkoglu" on the iPad it tries to autocorrect to "turmoil".)

[celtsfan84]

This post seems to assume that Lopez's rebounding will improve with time but Bynum will not mature as a human being with time.

Lopez has actually seen a regression in his rebounding numbers.  If he were to improve in that aspect, surely we would have seen some small sign by now.  Maybe an increase of half a board a game or something.

Also, when citing scoring averages, please note that Bynum plays with Kobe and Gasol and Lopez doesn't, so of course Lopez will have a higher average.  Also, since the Lakers have Gasol and Odom as bigs, Bynum will naturally play less minutes, so Lopez will have more opportunities for points and rebounds.

Bynum grabs 9 rebounds in 27 minutes.  Lopez grabs 6 rebounds in 35 minutes.  Bynum is more physical.  Bynum plays better defense.  Bynum has better post moves.  Bynum shoots a better percentage.  Bynum is better in every aspect of basketball.  He just plays for the Lakers so he has less chances.

Health is the ONLY measure that Lopez has over Bynum.  If I am Orlando, it is definitely worth the risk.  Either take garbage or take a chance at a great player.  I would turn down Lopez and 5 1st Round picks in an instant.

[jambr380]

I am actually a Lopez fan, but I definitely am on the Bynum and Gasol bandwagon. I get that Gasol is in the latter part of his career, but he is certainly still effective. I think Bynum and Lopez are comparable and both have their strengths, but Bynum [still] has more potential.

I guess I would have to see what else is in the Nets package, but the Lakers have a pretty solid offer. No one in the league is worth Howard (except Lebron).

[celtsfan84]

Totally agree that nobody in the league is worth Dwight other than LeBron.  Also keep in mind that Orlando can move Gasol to a contender later on if Bynum and Gasol is the offer.  At the very least, we know Houston is interested and they aren't even a contender.

[jambr380]

Totally agree that nobody in the league is worth Dwight other than LeBron.  Also keep in mind that Orlando can move Gasol to a contender later on if Bynum and Gasol is the offer.  At the very least, we know Houston is interested and they aren't even a contender.

Yeah, seriously, weren't they giving up Martin and Scola for Gasol in the failed CP3 deal? You change it to Bynum, Martin, and Scola for Howard and it may seem more reasonable to some people.

[manl_lui]

when healthy Bynum is a better player than Brook Lopez...

having Pau on your team also helps so thats not bad of a deal

but it is a gamble though on Bynum's knees...but is it worth it, who knows...