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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« on: December 11, 2011, 04:58:44 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 05:00:58 PM »

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because with more time in our system, he could be successful here.

Last year, Injuries killed our playoff hopes. Danny wants to get Younger/more athletic guys for the bench, guys who are less injury prone...we cant have another year where the big 3 have to play significant minutes because our bench is all on IR

having Jeff Green/Brandon Bass should shore up some continuity on a bench that had been ravaged by injuries the past year

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 05:02:06 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


If they had reports/ suspicions that a team would do a multiple year offer to him they would have to match, and were willing to overpay to maintain him on a one year deal so they could see if he was worth it long term, it makes sense.

Gives them one year to evaluate him and see if he's part of the solution going forward, or if they aren't impressed let him walk or do a S/T.
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Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2011, 05:03:19 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


Please explain the rule on trades after signing.  Why can you 'Sign & Trade' but can't sign and then trade?

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2011, 05:04:33 PM »

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Good question. Lots of unspoken things could be going on here behind the scenes. Green is on the verge of busting out and becoming a legit player or getting the overhyped, overrated and overpaid tag. He definitely has something to prove this year, is that what Danny is telling him?

We could be looking at a scenario where Danny wants to have him locked up for this year and still be able to use him for a trade deadline chip if needed.
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Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2011, 05:09:11 PM »

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because with more time in our system, he could be successful here.

Last year, Injuries killed our playoff hopes. Danny wants to get Younger/more athletic guys for the bench, guys who are less injury prone...we cant have another year where the big 3 have to play significant minutes because our bench is all on IR

having Jeff Green/Brandon Bass should shore up some continuity on a bench that had been ravaged by injuries the past year

but I'm not saying don't sign him...we already exercised our option to match any offer given to him.

but now that he has signed we can't include him in any of these swirling deals as a trade piece.

why not let some of these scenarios play themselves out and then sign him.

right now we are very thin in the middle, for instance.

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2011, 05:12:37 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2011, 05:21:45 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.


well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2011, 05:26:06 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

Cause he doesn't want to trade him, isn't it pretty obvious?
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Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2011, 05:29:06 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.


well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

The Celtics probably preferred signing him to this 1 year contract over being forced to match a longer contract.

It'd be nice to still have him un-signed, but I'm pretty sure that it wasn't possible to keep that situation any longer.

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 05:38:35 PM »

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looking at who's signed for the bench brigade, Green's the only one who'd be considered an offensive threat.  If we don't sign him, we'd be facing bigger offensive droughts than last year.
for that reason, Green couldn't realistically be moved as a trade piece -- especially with CP3 deal not happening.

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2011, 05:47:10 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.


well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2011, 05:50:23 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.


well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

Exactly. A REALLY expensive way to keep depth this year, give him a year to show ANYTHING of long term value, with a premium payed to maintain full flexibility next year.

Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2011, 05:53:38 PM »

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Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.


  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.


well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

because 9 million for one year with unrestricted free agency next year is better than 5 mill a year for three years if your jeff?

the celtics vastly over payed him for this one year, one assumes to get him for a "test drive" year before committing to multiple years.

Say they were on the fence and some team came offering 3 years at 5 million. Now the celtics HAVE to match 3 years.

This way they overpay him for a year, and if he plays as well as they clearly think he can, they can resign him to a reasonable deal. If he doesn't, they can explore sign and trading him.

In essence this was a deal to overpay him now so they wouldnt have to gamble and have him for multiple years.
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Re: Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2011, 06:02:27 PM »

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Because he gives us depth at two positions (one better than the other), he can be a spot-starter when they want to give Pierce a night off, and he's a $9M expiring contract at the deadline.  The latter may be the most important reason; that lets us take back what, like a $14M contract in return?