Miami quietly fills holes and becomes very deep.

[YouGotRondo d]

Proud of Chauncey. He should stand up for himself.

He should not be forced to play for some crappy team and waste away the twilight years of his career.

Forced? What's preventing him from filing for retirement?

Why should Chauncey be forced into retirement? That is wrong.  

How is it forced retirement? He voted for the new CBA..he knew the whole amnesty and bid thing. Why cry about it now? Either play or retire.

When he left Denver (which he didnt even want to do since he was from there and had his family settled there), he was "promised hed be playing for a contender" (his agents words).  If that is the case, and part of the reason he was ok with going to NY was that promise, then I think his frustration is even more understandable.  

I do remember when they initially discussed moving him from Denver, that he considered retirement.  Like someone else said, all he has left is to play for another ring.  If he didnt think he'd be doing that, he probably would have retired and just stayed in Denver, not moving his family and forcing his kids to change schools, etc.  To throw this at him now just a year after he uprooted his family due to the promise he was given is ridiculous.

It doesn't matter what he was promised as long as that promise wasn't a part of his contract. I have heard plenty of players say "It's business" when they leave a team for more money...it works both ways...a team can let you go for business reasons.

If your explanation for why this is ok, is that it's ok to break a promise you made to a player (that resulted in him uprooting his family) if it's a good business decision, then you really cant be mad at Chaunceys actions, because he would owe that person absolutely nothing after that, and is himself only doing whats best for his business...himself.

Uprooting his family? How hard it to for a millionaire to move his family for a newer job opportunity? Common people do this all the time...you go where job opportunities are. Corporations transfer their employees all the time..its not unheard of..and those employees make less than Mr. Big Shot.

His options are very simple: play for the highest bidder and earn some more millions or retire.

Chauncey doesnt need anymore money.  If he did, he wouldn't have made an issue of leaving Denver.  And having millions of dollars doesnt mean that uprooting your family isnt painful.  Millions of dollars arent going to make your kids not feel bad about leaving all their friends in school, or your wife move away from her family.  The only "job opportunity" Chauncey had any interest in, was another ring.  Competing for that, was the only reason he agreed to go to NY.  If that wasnt an option, he wouldnt have gone to NY in the 1st place.  It isnt as easy as "play for more millions or retire", because he's already moved his family to NY.  If he were going to retire or not be chasing a ring, he would have stayed in Denver where his family was from.

If he chooses to retire he is free to move wherever he likes.

And by the rules of the the agreement his union just signed, retirement is the only move he can force at this time.

[Mencius]

I hope some team does claim Chauncey, mainly because I don't want him ending up in Miami.  If Cleveland's owner truly hates Miami as much as I think he does, he ought to consider claiming Chauncey.  That would be rich.  It would suck for Chauncey, but I'd rather it suck for Chauncey than he wind up in Miami (I realize those aren't the only two choices.)

[Roy H.]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

[Who]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

The league rules suck. Screw that. That's not a good enough reason (for me).

I have no problem with Scola refusing to play in New Orleans and demanding a trade.

[barefacedmonk]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

The league rules suck. Screw that. That's not a good enough reason (for me).

Well, good thing you're not an NBA contracted player.

[PosImpos]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

to me the difference is that louis scola is not at the end of his career, nor is he at the end of his contract.  he likely would not be willing to give up all of the money he'd get on his contract and play on a good team instead.  billups likely would.


i think a vet like billups, on the last year of his deal, should be able to play where he wants assuming he's willing to give up all the money on the last year of his deal and sign for no more than the veteran minimum anywhere else.

[Roy H.]

I have no problem with Scola refusing to play in New Orleans and demanding a trade.

So, taking this to its logical conclusion, when does the league contract to the 10 franchises that all the good players want to play for?  It doesn't seem like a viable NBA if every player has 100% right to hold out and force a trade to their destination of choice.

[Roy H.]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

to me the difference is that louis scola is not at the end of his career, nor is he at the end of his contract.  he likely would not be willing to give up all of the money he'd get on his contract and play on a good team instead.  billups likely would.


i think a vet like billups, on the last year of his deal, should be able to play where he wants assuming he's willing to give up all the money on the last year of his deal and sign for no more than the veteran minimum anywhere else.

Veteran players should negotiate player options in the last year of their deals, then.

[Moreover]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

The league rules suck. Screw that. That's not a good enough reason (for me).

I have no problem with Scola refusing to play in New Orleans and demanding a trade.

And Gasol refusing to play in Houston? He doesn't want to be there either.

That would basically screw the league because it'd have a huge chilling effect on players movement. And the draft process would implode: why should Rubio or Williams go to Minnesota?

Players shouldn't sign multi-year contracts if they want to pick where to play every season.

[dtrader]

Proud of Chauncey. He should stand up for himself.

He should not be forced to play for some crappy team and waste away the twilight years of his career.

Forced? What's preventing him from filing for retirement?

Why should Chauncey be forced into retirement? That is wrong.  

Why should any player report to the city where they're traded, then?

If Al Jefferson was happy in Boston, why is it okay to "force" him to play in Minnesota?  Why is it cool to "force" Marshon Brooks to play in New Jersey?  Why "force" John Wall to play with the Wizards, or Eric Gordon to play with the Clips?

League rules allow waiver transactions, trades, etc.  If players don't like league rules or the contracts they signed, find a new league to play in or retire.  There's nothing wrong about asking a player to abide by the Collective Bargaining Agreement they're bound by.

But Chauncey isnt mad about the terms of his contract (or the CBA).  He's mad that the team isnt standing behind the promises they made to him outside of his contract.  It's more of a personal betrayal of trust than anything else.  Apparently he felt (as I do), that a promise is a promise even if it isnt in writing.  

So they broke that trust with him.  They still followed the contract.  His contract says he has to report to his new team and play.  Fine...he'll do that.  Just dont expect him to play the way you want him to, or act the way you think he should...cuz thats not in his contract.

[Moreover]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

to me the difference is that louis scola is not at the end of his career, nor is he at the end of his contract.  he likely would not be willing to give up all of the money he'd get on his contract and play on a good team instead.  billups likely would.


i think a vet like billups, on the last year of his deal, should be able to play where he wants assuming he's willing to give up all the money on the last year of his deal and sign for no more than the veteran minimum anywhere else.

Billups decided to not do that. That's what makes his attitude so bizarre.

[Moreover]

But Chauncey isnt mad about the terms of his contract (or the CBA).  He's mad that the team isnt standing behind the promises they made to him outside of his contract.  It's more of a personal betrayal of trust than anything else.  Apparently he felt (as I do), that a promise is a promise even if it isnt in writing.  

So they broke that trust with him.  They still followed the contract.  His contract says he has to report to his new team and play.  Fine...he'll do that.  Just dont expect him to play the way you want him to, or act the way you think he should...cuz thats not in his contract.

So, he's mad with NYK and some other team will pay for it?

And why didn't he simply waived his salary for this season? Then he could pick a team to play.

[Who]

I don't understand why Chauncey should have to play for a crappy team (or retire).

I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me.

League rules?

Why should Louis Scola have to go to New Orleans or retire?

The league rules suck. Screw that. That's not a good enough reason (for me).

Well, good thing you're not an NBA contracted player.

Haha ... yep, I might be, ehh, a tad difficult once in awhile.

[Who]

I have no problem with Scola refusing to play in New Orleans and demanding a trade.

So, taking this to its logical conclusion, when does the league contract to the 10 franchises that all the good players want to play for?  It doesn't seem like a viable NBA if every player has 100% right to hold out and force a trade to their destination of choice.

I do not see that as a logical conclusion.

Every team will be able to fill it's roster because they have money and players play for money. If the money is good enough, they'll be able to find talented players who are happy to join.

[Roy H.]

Proud of Chauncey. He should stand up for himself.

He should not be forced to play for some crappy team and waste away the twilight years of his career.

Forced? What's preventing him from filing for retirement?

Why should Chauncey be forced into retirement? That is wrong.  

Why should any player report to the city where they're traded, then?

If Al Jefferson was happy in Boston, why is it okay to "force" him to play in Minnesota?  Why is it cool to "force" Marshon Brooks to play in New Jersey?  Why "force" John Wall to play with the Wizards, or Eric Gordon to play with the Clips?

League rules allow waiver transactions, trades, etc.  If players don't like league rules or the contracts they signed, find a new league to play in or retire.  There's nothing wrong about asking a player to abide by the Collective Bargaining Agreement they're bound by.

But Chauncey isnt mad about the terms of his contract (or the CBA).  He's mad that the team isnt standing behind the promises they made to him outside of his contract.  It's more of a personal betrayal of trust than anything else.  Apparently he felt (as I do), that a promise is a promise even if it isnt in writing.  

So they broke that trust with him.  They still followed the contract.  His contract says he has to report to his new team and play.  Fine...he'll do that.  Just dont expect him to play the way you want him to, or act the way you think he should...cuz thats not in his contract.

As mentioned above, if Chauncey feels like he was tricked into signing the contract, he could have negotiated a 100% buyout of his salary, and would have been granted free agency.  That would have cleared up the cap room the Knicks needed.

Instead, he decided that he was entitled to his $14 million, *and* he feels he's entitled to ignore league rules, forcing his way to the team of his choice by being a punk.  I have a hard time feeling sympathy for any "broken promise" when he easily could have been granted free agency.