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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 03:45:26 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.

If you look at Marcus Thornton's numbers after the trade to the Kings you will see they look identical to Eric Gordon's numbers. Small Sample Size but it's not a bad way for the Kings to hit the Salary floor by re-uping a poor man's EG. Could have been worse...


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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 03:51:09 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.
which is sad because i realy thought that team has a nice core and cap space. cousins and tyreke are future all stars

Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 03:59:25 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.

If you look at Marcus Thornton's numbers after the trade to the Kings you will see they look identical to Eric Gordon's numbers. Small Sample Size but it's not a bad way for the Kings to hit the Salary floor by re-uping a poor man's EG. Could have been worse...

It could have been worse but he still played 38 minutes per game. As a starter didn't Gerald Green average around 18 ppg? If you play enough minutes and have talent you will score points. Doesn't necessarily mean you're a quality player.

Thornton is a quality player and obviously not on Gerald's level but not worth that much. He should be getting more like 5 years 32 mill. To me he hasn't proven himself yet but I've only watched him play maybe 5 or 6 games.

Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 04:01:58 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.

it's kind of a no-win situation for the kings, though.  which players want to play there unless the kings overpay them?  which players are they supposed to sign to reach the salary floor?  unless they use their cap space to trade for other teams' crap, in which case they'd still probably be getting long-term financial burden.  at least marcus thornton is young and productive.
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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 04:05:41 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.

it's kind of a no-win situation for the kings, though.  which players want to play there unless the kings overpay them?  which players are they supposed to sign to reach the salary floor?  unless they use their cap space to trade for other teams' crap, in which case they'd still probably be getting long-term financial burden.  at least marcus thornton is young and productive.

That's a good way to look at it. If you consider the fact that they have to pay a premium to sign pretty much anyone then they paid a fair price.

Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 04:11:24 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.

it's kind of a no-win situation for the kings, though.  which players want to play there unless the kings overpay them?  which players are they supposed to sign to reach the salary floor?  unless they use their cap space to trade for other teams' crap, in which case they'd still probably be getting long-term financial burden.  at least marcus thornton is young and productive.

I understand overpaying guys to hit your salary floor.  However, giving largely unproven guys large contracts over 5 years is a recipe for cap purgatory.  If you need to overpay Marcus Thornton, fine, just do it over 3 years, not 5.


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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 04:11:50 PM »

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The kings may plan on using evans as a point 3, i dont think its a terrible idea he has the size (same weight and standing reach as joe johnson). With jimmer at 1 marcus 2 evan at 3 there is a great penetrate and kick out team on offence. Defence will be a problem but thomson and cousins should be able to clog the middle and help with that.
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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2011, 04:13:57 PM »

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Telfair signs with Phoenix to back up Nash until Brooks gets back.  Not a bad stopgap there.

Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2011, 04:16:01 PM »

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So if Thornton gets 5@$8M=$40M and Davis gets 4@$6.5M=$26M, what does that mean for Jeff Green?  Based on this maybe 4@$7M=$28M?  Actually 1 year at about $6M may be the best thing.  If he has a good year and next year won't have this compressed FA period.  I think we need Green as he is a very versitile 2 position player.

Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2011, 04:17:17 PM »

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Jamaal Magliore becomes first Canadian player to play in Canada by signing with Raptors.  Deal is for two years with an option to be set adrift after one.   ;)

Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2011, 04:29:31 PM »

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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2011, 04:41:53 PM »

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Juwan Howard is resigning with Miami, according to Marc Spears. I guess, they don't really want to upgrade their C position...or are not able to get the players they want.
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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2011, 04:44:40 PM »

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Juwan Howard is resigning with Miami, according to Marc Spears. I guess, they don't really want to upgrade their C position...or are not able to get the players they want.
Or think Chris Bosh can play center.
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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2011, 04:53:59 PM »

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Justin Harper has signed a 2 year deal with the Magic (32nd overall pick in 2011 draft).
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Re: Misc Signings and Trades
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2011, 04:56:50 PM »

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Figured we could use a catchall thread for the many moves that will be made that aren't worth their own thread(s).

Recently:

Kings sign Marcus Thornton for 5 years, $40 million (according to Broussard).  Who were they bidding against?  This is a heck of a way to get to the salary floor.  Kings continue to look hopeless.


Exhibit B in the "The lockout changed nothing" thread

No kidding.  Just further proof that franchises with poor management will continue to struggle, no matter what the cap rules.

it's kind of a no-win situation for the kings, though.  which players want to play there unless the kings overpay them?  which players are they supposed to sign to reach the salary floor?  unless they use their cap space to trade for other teams' crap, in which case they'd still probably be getting long-term financial burden.  at least marcus thornton is young and productive.
Sacramento will have no problems convincing FAs to play there after Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins become legitimate All-Star caliber players and give FAs an up and coming team to join that could become a Title Contender in the future.

But in the interim period, Sacramento is going to struggle so they should watch their cap flexibility closely and avoid any long term deals. Pay guys on 1-2 year contracts. Pay them short money to keep that long term flexibility open for when quality FAs want to join on more competitive salaries.