Poll: CP3 trade, do you agree with DStern’s decision?

[coco]

As a Celtic fan, I do not have a problem with the proposed trade.  This is way different than the KBrown/Gasol trade.  The Lakers are really giving up something this time around.

 As a matter of fact, I think New Orleans was going to make a killing.  And as for the Lakers, I am sure this trade was not made to win this season but to bring DHoward later on…either this season or next.
 
Proposed trade:
 
“the Lakers had reached an agreement to acquire Paul in a deal that would have cost them Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Under terms of the deal, the Lakers would have sent Gasol to the Rockets. The Hornets would have received Odom, Rockets guards Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic and forward Luis Scola, league sources said.
Houston had also agreed to send a 2012 first-round pick – previously obtained from the Knicks – to New Orleans as part of the package, a source said.”

[Who]

No -- the trade was fine as it was.

[Kwhit10]

No I don't while I may not understand why some teams do the trades they do it shouldn't have been vetoed.

The NBA is in a tough situation.  This CBA won't be extended after 6 years (or is it 5?).

There are a lot of problems now with the league. 

• You now have all the top players wanting to play with each other and essentially in only a few select markets
• The first point then leads all these superstars holding their small market teams hostage to trade them to the city of their choosing
• The small markets teams are then forced because they're too afraid to let the superstar walk.  So they make whatever trade they can to the team the superstar wants
• The league has just vetoed a trade and is the first time i can remember, and on top of that involving a top tier PG and one of the leagues biggest market and most successful teams.

What I personally hope comes from this veto situation:
The veto pretty much doesn't allow any team to be able to trade  for Chris Paul without the league looking completely ridiculous.  So I hope this prevents any trade for him happening, allowing CP3's contract to run out and him becoming a UFA.  This will then not allow him to go to his desired big market team for the price he wants.  Also those teams are over the cap anyways and won't be able to offer a contract. Unless CP3 is willing to take a HUGE pay cut.

Thus I hope these people have the cajones to do the following:

Hornets- let CP3 walk to show him he is not in control of their franchise.
Small Market team - Trade for CP3 knowing he probably won't resign.
CP3 - if allowed to walk whether from Hornets or the team he was traded to, to then accept a smaller contract to play with a team he deems to have the biggest chance to be successful.

Unfortunately non of those 3 things will happen, because the NBA is full of a bunch of entitled superstars and whipped GMs.

[Fafnir]

I wish we could peer into the alternate history of how this board reacts if the same thing had happened to the proposed Celtic trade.

Because there is a very strong chance it would have, though not a certainty of course.

[scaryjerry]

I dont care one way or the other honestly...I think its not as good of a trade for the lakers as some people would think
I undersand they would get their franchise player post-kobe...but how exactly does a PG who needs the ball in his hands literally the entire game coexist with Kobe? and Im sorry but Pau Gasol was a huge, absolutely huge and underrated reason they made 3 straight finals and won 2 of them

[SHAQATTACK]

The league needs to prove to the players , the league RUNS the NBA ,not the players and the OWNERS own the team NOT the players.

The CBA deal apparently was about the buddy system , and maybe the players promised more parity and the CP3 deal threw gasoline on the still hot coals of the small market owners.

[LB3533]

I do not agree with David Stern or the rest of the owners preventing this Laker/Hornets trade.

1.) Chris Paul did not decide he was going to be a Laker, Dell Demps did.

2.) If there is a problem with allowing players decide where to play then there is equal wrong in allowing 28 other owners and the commish to decide where players should or shouldn't play.

This whole thing is a big joke and all around messed up.

There was no way the league was going to stop players from going to the bigger market.....short of having small markets offering double the contract values.

Not gonna happen.

[Evantime34]

Even though this is not in the best interest of the Celtics, Stern should reverse his decision. It's a fair trade for everyone involved (only if the Rockets can sign Nene and then use their MLE to keep Hayes). I believe that if Stern does not reverse it he will be faced with an ammense ammount of pressure to resign.

[Fafnir]

Even though this is not in the best interest of the Celtics, Stern should reverse his decision. It's a fair trade for everyone involved (only if the Rockets can sign Nene and then use their MLE to keep Hayes). I believe that if Stern does not reverse it he will be faced with an ammense ammount of pressure to resign.

The only way I understand the decision is if Dell Demps exceeded his authority to take on longer term money that put the Hornets above the cap for the forseeable future.

But in that case the league still is at fault because their reperesentitive needed to be more involved with Demps.

[SHAQATTACK]

Fine..let LA have CP3 now ...Stern screwed up LA's master plan for Howard to join them . This whole deal is all about keeping Howard out of LA , something all the rest of the NBA saw comming, more of the same unparity for another 10 years.  CP3 was just a pawn in the game .

[Evantime34]

Even though this is not in the best interest of the Celtics, Stern should reverse his decision. It's a fair trade for everyone involved (only if the Rockets can sign Nene and then use their MLE to keep Hayes). I believe that if Stern does not reverse it he will be faced with an ammense ammount of pressure to resign.

The only way I understand the decision is if Dell Demps exceeded his authority to take on longer term money that put the Hornets above the cap for the forseeable future.

But in that case the league still is at fault because their reperesentitive needed to be more involved with Demps.

I think the league convinces the Lakers to throw in a first, then allows the trade in order to divert an oncomming disaster.

[Celtics18]

I think that Stern's decision needs to be reversed for the league to be able to maintain any semblance of credibility. 

The league is basically admitting that they put us through that maddening lock out for nothing.  All the hot air about needing to change the system issues in the CBA to create competitive balance was meaningless.  They now realize they couldn't control players being in charge of their own destiny through the implementation of a bunch of silly free agency rules.  Now they want to exercise their power by being a big board that oversees all trades.  I know this is a somewhat unique situation due to the Hornets being owned by the league, but I see it as setting a very dangerous precedent.

[action781]

I have zero trade with a superstar going to a big market or that he went to LA.  I have a problem with what NO got back.  Not because it wasn't fair talent compensation, but because it just doesn't help them.

In summary, they are moving somewhat laterally talent-wise, losing a superstar (which you need to really contend), they aren't getting younger, and they are taking on more money (and long-term money).

That trade is not making this franchise marketable to sell and that's gotta be this team's sole priority when making a deal.  Producing a 45 win team that generates a financial loss is no good.

[Fafnir]

I think that Stern's decision needs to be reversed for the league to be able to maintain any semblance of credibility. 

The league is basically admitting that they put us through that maddening lock out for nothing.  All the hot air about needing to change the system issues in the CBA to create competitive balance was meaningless.  They now realize they couldn't control players being in charge of their own destiny through the implementation of a bunch of silly free agency rules.  Now they want to exercise their power by being a big board that oversees all trades.  I know this is a somewhat unique situation due to the Hornets being owned by the league, but I see it as setting a very dangerous precedent.

Getting the players share of BRI reduced to on average 50% is a pretty big reason for the lockout.

[Fafnir]

I have zero trade with a superstar going to a big market or that he went to LA.  I have a problem with what NO got back.  Not because it wasn't fair talent compensation, but because it just doesn't help them.

In summary, they are moving somewhat laterally talent-wise, losing a superstar (which you need to really contend), they aren't getting younger, and they are taking on more money (and long-term money).

That trade is not making this franchise marketable to sell and that's gotta be this team's sole priority when making a deal.  Producing a 45 win team that generates a financial loss is no good.

I agree with this statement, this was a poor trade for the future beyond 1 or 2 years in New Orleans.

It was an extremely bad trade for them financially, without CP3 they'd be losing even more money and have a higher payroll.

Unless they flipped Odom, Martin, Scola in subsequent trades it would have left them in the middle muddle losing money.

I also don't like it for the Rockets, unless they got Nene and somehow added someone else on the perimeter. I bet they had plans to do both of those things, and could have been a top 4 seed if they actually pulled it off. Risky but bold move for them....