Rondo has peaked

[droopdog7]

Read this sentiment in a story this morning and you know what?  I agree with.

I'm on record many times over saying that I don't think rondo will ever improve his shooting in any significant way.  With this limitation, everything is more difficult than it should be.  You can see him wear down during the season and I don't think this will get better, even at this age.

The other thing that is obvious is that most Celtic fans overvalue value rondo.  It seems that in the minds of some GMs that players like Stephen curry and Eric Gordon have more value.  Obviously some Celtic fans would be absolutely apalled by this.  But there may be something to the idea that rondo is good so long as he is surrounded by good players.

In the end, if DA can land Paul, it would be a huge win for the franchise IMO.

And yes, I know some here will be offended.  Not saying rondo is a bad player.  Just not as good as many here want got believe.

[wdleehi]

He is to young at this point to say that.


Maybe it is true.


Maybe he will grow a little more.


Maybe he will grow a lot. 



It is an unknown.



Just like with Paul.  He to is young.  Who is to say his growth has ended. 

[Eja117]

There's a couple things not adding up to me here.

They'd rather have Eric Gordon than Rondo?

Paul won't resign with the Celts, but he would with Golden St or the Clipps?


Hmmmm.  i don't know about all that

[Corey]

There's a couple things not adding up to me here.

They'd rather have Eric Gordon than Rondo?

Paul won't resign with the Celts, but he would with Golden St or the Clipps?


Hmmmm.  i don't know about all that

I value gordon higher than rondo as well. What is far fetched about that?

Paul would be more willing to resign with GSA because they can obtain chandler. Same with the clippers. Paul's people have already leaked that he would be willing to discuss an extension with a team that acquired Tyson.

[Fafnir]

He still is young enough that he could easily improve, but he is largely the player he's going to be. But his flaws are such that even modest improvments to his free throw and jump shot percentage would create a large boost in his level of play.

[ugh]

It wouldn't be so bad if he just couldn't shoot from the floor, but it is his terrible free throw shooting that kills him and the team.  With him and Perkins on the floor together last year, you had two guys that you basically couldn't use on offense down the stretch.  You can't have a penetrating pg that can't shoot FT, which was what happened vs the Laker with Kobe basically not bothering to even guard him.

[Greenbean]

Rondo and his style have been absolutely perfect for this team the last 5 years.

After all those veterans and offensive firepower leave, he is not nearly as valuable.

There are only a handful of teams where Rondo would be as valuable as he is on the Celtics.

Miami, Lakers and I cant think of many more.

[Greenbean]

He still is young enough that he could easily improve, but he is largely the player he's going to be. But his flaws are such that even modest improvments to his free throw and jump shot percentage would create a large boost in his level of play.

I have been thinking the same thing Fafnir and if he remains on the team, I will remain hopeful. The bottom line is his FT shooting has been trending downward for the most part since he entered the leage. It has gotten so bad that last year he clearly was avoiding contact for weeks at a time it seemed.

I think his jump shooting has gotten better, but I fear his FT shooting never will.

[SHAQATTACK]

I think the playoffs showed Perkins was overrated ( I was upset too at first, but soon saw the light , and I think the same could be said of his buddy Rondo.

Face it Rondo was lifted into the limelight by the big three, Rondo has mentioned on coccasion himself that he would have been traded 2-3 times by now if not for the unique fit he gave the team early on.

A short man who can't shoot or make a freethow is about worthless in the NBA.

 

 
  

[Inside-Out]

Yes, he's young and technically has time to develop, but really, how long would a 25 (or whatever) year old basketball player been working on FT's and shooting wide open 15' jumpers?

If he hasn't developed this skill to at least a passable level a by now (after at least a decade of trying to), he simply won't.

I agree completely.

[RyNye]

You can't say Rondo has peaked without also saying that Chris Paul has. Both in the last year have shown marked decreases in their statistics (though Rondo, actually, had a huge jump in his assist rate). Paul, actually, has been declining for TWO years.

I don't think either has peaked, personally, but I think it's a horrible argument to use in favor of Chris Paul, because he has shown the more significant decrease.

[droopdog7]

You can't say Rondo has peaked without also saying that Chris Paul has. Both in the last year have shown marked decreases in their statistics (though Rondo, actually, had a huge jump in his assist rate). Paul, actually, has been declining for TWO years.

I don't think either has peaked, personally, but I think it's a horrible argument to use in favor of Chris Paul, because he has shown the more significant decrease.

Maybe.  But Paul's peak is significantly higher than Rondo's.  Much higher than most Celt fans believe.  Paul is a legit star.  A game changer.  Rondo is not.

[Interceptor]

Yes, he's young and technically has time to develop, but really, how long would a 25 (or whatever) year old basketball player been working on FT's and shooting wide open 15' jumpers?

If he hasn't developed this skill to at least a passable level a by now (after at least a decade of trying to), he simply won't.

Two words for you: Jason Kidd.

[Greenbean]

Yes, he's young and technically has time to develop, but really, how long would a 25 (or whatever) year old basketball player been working on FT's and shooting wide open 15' jumpers?

If he hasn't developed this skill to at least a passable level a by now (after at least a decade of trying to), he simply won't.

Two words for you: Jason Kidd.

Kidd could at least shoot a respectable FT percentage. He also at least broke 30% from 3.

He had decent form.

Rondo's mechanics look hopeless.

[CelticHooligan3]

He still is young enough that he could easily improve, but he is largely the player he's going to be. But his flaws are such that even modest improvments to his free throw and jump shot percentage would create a large boost in his level of play.

So true. Which is why its interesting to see us giving up on him. Either there is some credibility to the rumors hes a lockerroom pain in the pa-toot. Or Ainge just isnt seeing enough improvement of his game to take it to the next level. My question is the latter part an issue of motivation or has danny seen him reach his ceiling?