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Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2011, 01:44:51 PM »

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Thoughts on potentially sending Rondo to Sac for Evans and Thompson or Hickson? I have some opinions on it, but I'd like to hear from some other people.

Danny wanted Evans a few years back.

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2011, 01:49:31 PM »

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The NBA owns the NO they are not going to strip it of it's superstar for Rondo.   Right now , Paul is the guy who people who watch it's games go to see, I don't see them pulling the trigger on a Rondo for Paul deal.   It simply doesn't make financial sense for the NBA.

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2011, 01:52:30 PM »

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The NBA owns the NO they are not going to strip it of it's superstar for Rondo.   Right now , Paul is the guy who people who watch it's games go to see, I don't see them pulling the trigger on a Rondo for Paul deal.   It simply doesn't make financial sense for the NBA.

Alright, so after this short season and when Paul opts out, then what? Wouldn't it be wise for the NBA to get something for Paul rather than nothing?

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2011, 02:02:14 PM »

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A lot of people are on point here...  If Rondo is being traded, the reason is clearly to make a push at the championship this year.  If that's the case, we do NOT need a 2, 3, or 4, so we would need to trade him to fill a newly found hole at PG or a C.  This player would need to be a playoff impact player.  Here are the ONLY possible candidates that I see at those 2 positions:

CP3 (possible)
Deron Williams (highly unlikely)
Rose (impossible)
Nash
Westbrook


If CP3, Nash, Westbrook, or Gasol aren't coming through that door, I don't want to trade Rondo.  And even the latter of those 3 would need to bring extra players along with them.

On the topic of scoring, I think CP3 would be perfect.  A scorer who's penetration will also get Ray a lot of open looks.  As others have mentioned, it is a no-deal without a contract extension though.

+1 for well reasoned post!

Agree with most points, but I very much believe that we would have a shot at DWill.

Tandem RR and an S&T'd BBD (who lists NJ as one of his preferred landing spots and who can use Davis' services) together and I think they bite.

They get something for DWill who has made noises about leaving at year's end(and Rondo is way more than something and cheaper and locked up longterm)and the Celtics get way more dangerous.

Now we have a Better Big Four and Jeff Green also.
I'm concerned about Deron competing in the east. Rose gave him a rough time. I'm not sure Deron can handle him, I know that's a secondary concern as its just one match up but it popped into my head.

Excellent point and one with which I cannot disagree regarding Rose specifically, defensively.

While I think that DWill will have difficulty with Rose as an on-man defender, I think our help defense mitigates that.

Also, Dwill's far more complete offensive repertoire, I think, more than makes up for his step-down from Rondo on Rose defense.

In addition, as you alluded to, Rose is pretty unique in his complete skill-set, and I don't see DWill having huge issues defensively with many other PGs in the whole league, not just the East. Also, I don't see CP3 handling DRose much better. CP3 may be a little quicker but DWill  is stronger.


Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2011, 02:03:56 PM »

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I wonder if ESPN would be willing to trade Broussard to the NBDL for Professor Weinman so we could get somebody on ESPN who actually knows something about the NBA?

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2011, 02:06:44 PM »

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A lot of people are on point here...  If Rondo is being traded, the reason is clearly to make a push at the championship this year.  If that's the case, we do NOT need a 2, 3, or 4, so we would need to trade him to fill a newly found hole at PG or a C.  This player would need to be a playoff impact player.  Here are the ONLY possible candidates that I see at those 2 positions:

CP3 (possible)
Deron Williams (highly unlikely)
Rose (impossible)
Nash
Westbrook

Dwight Howard (unlikely b/c of current team rosters and salaries)
Marc Gasol
Andrew Bynum (not happening)

If CP3, Nash, Westbrook, or Gasol aren't coming through that door, I don't want to trade Rondo.  And even the latter of those 3 would need to bring extra players along with them.

On the topic of scoring, I think CP3 would be perfect.  A scorer who's penetration will also get Ray a lot of open looks.  As others have mentioned, it is a no-deal without a contract extension though.

Why would it be a good thing to bring los Nash, almost inarguably the worst defensive PG in the NBA, to a team built on defense?

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2011, 02:07:03 PM »

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I wonder if ESPN would be willing to trade Broussard to the NBDL for Professor Weinman so we could get somebody on ESPN who actually knows something about the NBA?

Cosign/tp. Steve would babble the sh## out of espn.

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2011, 02:09:53 PM »

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If Rondo for Paul makes us out of the DH pursuit, lets expand deal:
To NO: Rondo, KG, s&t BBD, our first and second round pick in 2013
To BOS: CP3, Okafor, s&t West.

Why for NO? Gets the best CP3 replacement, legit star in KG, hometown boy in BBD, draft picks and saves a ton of money with get rid of Okafor's deal.

Why for BOS? CP3. Gets rock solid center in Okafor and KG's replacement in David West.

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Its very serious title contender this year, and next we can add two very good players via draft and hope Ray signs for cheap.
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Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2011, 02:18:44 PM »

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I wonder if ESPN would be willing to trade Broussard to the NBDL for Professor Weinman so we could get somebody on ESPN who actually knows something about the NBA?

Cosign/tp. Steve would babble the sh## out of espn.

Thanks.

I never thought I'd say this....But since ESPN brought him back, sans the bombastic schtick, Stephen a Smith has shown enough insight and intelligence to run circles around Bayless, hill, Bucher, and Broussard.  Smith morphed from an embarassment into a well-read/informed commentator.

But Professor Weinman would run circles around all of them.  

I'm sure Broussard is getting this Rondo scoop from his usual reliable sources....

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2011, 02:40:17 PM »

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I wonder if ESPN would be willing to trade Broussard to the NBDL for Professor Weinman so we could get somebody on ESPN who actually knows something about the NBA?

Ha ha! Tommy Point for that one!

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2011, 03:05:32 PM »

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I wonder if ESPN would be willing to trade Broussard to the NBDL for Professor Weinman so we could get somebody on ESPN who actually knows something about the NBA?

Cosign/tp. Steve would babble the sh## out of espn.

Thanks.

I never thought I'd say this....But since ESPN brought him back, sans the bombastic schtick, Stephen a Smith has shown enough insight and intelligence to run circles around Bayless, hill, Bucher, and Broussard.  Smith morphed from an embarassment into a well-read/informed commentator.

But Professor Weinman would run circles around all of them.  

I'm sure Broussard is getting this Rondo scoop from his usual reliable sources....

RealGM?

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2011, 03:06:44 PM »

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If it's for Chris Paul or Deron Williams, then no thanks. WHy would the C's trade ROndo right now? I like how Chris Broussard reports on ESPN but this is just ridiculous.
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Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2011, 03:27:27 PM »

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A lot of people are on point here...  If Rondo is being traded, the reason is clearly to make a push at the championship this year.  If that's the case, we do NOT need a 2, 3, or 4, so we would need to trade him to fill a newly found hole at PG or a C.  This player would need to be a playoff impact player.  Here are the ONLY possible candidates that I see at those 2 positions:

CP3 (possible)
Deron Williams (highly unlikely)
Rose (impossible)
Nash
Westbrook

Dwight Howard (unlikely b/c of current team rosters and salaries)
Marc Gasol
Andrew Bynum (not happening)

If CP3, Nash, Westbrook, or Gasol aren't coming through that door, I don't want to trade Rondo.  And even the latter of those 3 would need to bring extra players along with them.

On the topic of scoring, I think CP3 would be perfect.  A scorer who's penetration will also get Ray a lot of open looks.  As others have mentioned, it is a no-deal without a contract extension though.

Why would it be a good thing to bring los Nash, almost inarguably the worst defensive PG in the NBA, to a team built on defense?

Nash is an absolute impact player on the offensive end and it was just reported that Danny believes the celtics need more offensive help.  Also, I said that trading him for Nash would require extra players to come in as well.  With a gaping hole at center depth on this roster, a player like Gortat would plug that very nicely.

In regards to the defense drop off, that would certainly appear to be an issue, but who are our biggest competitors in the East?  Miami and Chicago.  Against Miami, you put Nash on whatever PG they roll out there and smile at the idea of Miami deciding to try to exploit Nash instead of giving the ball to Wade or Bron.  Against Chicago... I mean nobody can really guard Rose well.  I'd say put Nash on Chicago's SG and have Ray Allen guard Rose and force him into being a jumpshooter similarly to what we've tried to do to Kobe and Lebron in the past.

p.s.  Even Rondo hasn't been really that affective guarding Rose.  http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=rosede01&p2=rondora01
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Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2011, 05:10:34 PM »

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I would trade Rondo for CP3. That being said I think Rondo has a great contract and nobody seems to factor that in.

Dollar for dollar Rondo is the best valued point guard in the league not on a rookie contract. CP3 will take up more cap room but is worth the additional space.

I'm not sure any other player makes sense right now. Nash is old and I think that would be a very bad move. Danny would never do it anyways.

Re: Broussard: Celtics Would Consider Dealing Rondo
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2011, 05:14:17 PM »

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Trading for Cp3 doesn't take us out of the race for Howard. It depends on if Danny is willing to trade for him without an extension(might lower the asking price) enabling him to become a free agent we could resign at a lower starting salary, if we trade some guys with him, or if he resigns for less expecting us to bring in Howard.