Rumor that doesn't make any sense: Celts looking "very hard" at Tyson Chander

[PosImpos]

Seems like another example of a national broadcaster not understanding the whole picture and simply jumping to conclusions.  Still, one would think with all the talk about financial restrictions, people could figure this one out.  

Maybe they could work a sign and trade.  Still think it's a long shot though.  

See, I'd love to dismiss this, but this is David Aldridge we're talking about.  He doesn't seem to make stuff up.  I don't know how realistic it is, but I believe it has been discussed at some level.

I would not be surprised if the Celtics were willing to make a hard push for Chandler ( Sign and trade green and Baby) and Aldridge knew this.

Dallas would have to be absolutely nuts to sign-and-trade Chandler for Green / Baby.  Chandler was the piece that took their defense to a championship level.  Without Chandler, they don't win this last summer.  They don't need Green and Davis.

[KCattheStripe]

Seems like another example of a national broadcaster not understanding the whole picture and simply jumping to conclusions.  Still, one would think with all the talk about financial restrictions, people could figure this one out.  

Maybe they could work a sign and trade.  Still think it's a long shot though.  

See, I'd love to dismiss this, but this is David Aldridge we're talking about.  He doesn't seem to make stuff up.  I don't know how realistic it is, but I believe it has been discussed at some level.

I would not be surprised if the Celtics were willing to make a hard push for Chandler ( Sign and trade green and Baby) and Aldridge knew this.

Dallas would have to be absolutely nuts to sign-and-trade Chandler for Green / Baby.  Chandler was the piece that took their defense to a championship level.  Without Chandler, they don't win this last summer.  They don't need Green and Davis.

All Aldridge said was that the C's were looking hard at Aldridge, Dallas could still be laughing in their face.

[fairweatherfan]

Seems like another example of a national broadcaster not understanding the whole picture and simply jumping to conclusions.  Still, one would think with all the talk about financial restrictions, people could figure this one out. 

Maybe they could work a sign and trade.  Still think it's a long shot though. 

See, I'd love to dismiss this, but this is David Aldridge we're talking about.  He doesn't seem to make stuff up.  I don't know how realistic it is, but I believe it has been discussed at some level.

I would not be surprised if the Celtics were willing to make a hard push for Chandler ( Sign and trade green and Baby) and Aldridge knew this.

Dallas would have to be absolutely nuts to sign-and-trade Chandler for Green / Baby.  Chandler was the piece that took their defense to a championship level.  Without Chandler, they don't win this last summer.  They don't need Green and Davis.

Chandler is a UFA - if he wanted to sign with us (major if, no evidence of this), Dallas wouldn't have a lot of choice.  They could refuse to do it, but then Chandler probably still goes somewhere else and leaves them with nothing to show for it.  Cleveland didn't want to sign-and-trade LeBron either.

EDIT:  I don't think there's any way this actually happens, just saying that it's not impossible if Chandler wanted it.

[Yogi]

Since there is no law against indulging in fantasy...

Glen Davis (sign and trade), Avery Bradley, Marquis Daniels Trade Exception for Tyson Chandler.
Why Dallas does it?
1) They need a young combo guard with upside for the future. Jason Kidd is on the verge of retiring. Terry is getting old. Beaubois has had two foot surgeries. J.J. Barea, Caron Butler, Stevenson are all free agents.
2) They can use a backup Power-forward/Center. They can’t afford to keep Dirk, Haywood and Chandler. They can amnesty Haywood, but they would still have to pay a lot of money to keep Chandler and not have a quality big for backup.
3) They really need to shed salary fast with the new CBA. They can shed 4-5 million this way. While keeping the amnesty for Haywood for future years.

Celtics
1) They need a center. Tyson Chandler is a pretty good center.

But wait Danny is not done...

Danny trades Tyson Chandler, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett Clippers pick, 2 future first rounders and a couple of second rounders for Dwight Howard and Gilbert Arenas.

Orlando gets:
1) 30+ Million in expiring contracts of Ray and KG to shed salary.
2) Getting rid of one of the worst contracts in history.
3) They will have a nice veteran core and several picks to rebuild on the fly. 
4) They can amnesty Turkoglu and get rid of their other horrible contract.

Boston gets:
1) Dwight Howard.
2) They can Amnesty Gilbert Arenas, fall under the cap and become a player in free agency. 
3) They sign Carl Landry and Jamal Crawford. 

Boston will look like:
Rondo - West
Crawford - E'Twaun Moore
Pierce - Green
Landry - JaJuan Johnson
Howard - Jermaine O'Neal

Orlando will look like:
Jameer Nelson - Duhon
Ray Allen - JJ Reddick
Hedo Turkoglu - Quentin Richardson
Kevin Garnett - Brandon Bass - Ryan Anderson
Tyson Chandler - Earl Clark

Dwight moves to a bigger market with a pass first, all-star, point guard, a good coach, a great franchise with a history of winning, and A hall of famer. 

Every one is happy... except Ray and KG.

[jc3celticsphan]

my guess would be they are going use the clause. but on who kg pierce maybe? sign and trade glen davis to dallas if chandler wants to come to boston. dallas does need cap space to sign butler

forget it cant resign a player after you use the clause we minus well save it

[Kane3387]

This isn't happening. We had interest in David lee last year too. No way we can acquire Tyson without losing a member of our big four.

It's not happening. Frankly Dallas will do whatever it can to keep him and they will. Even if it means the next two years they work their behinds off shedding salary before the new luxury tax kicks in.

[mcshane41]

The reason we can't figure out how this happens is that it can't and won't and makes no sense for anyone involved. Why wouldn't the Mavs do anything but offer Chandler the years and money to go for ring #2? Why would Chandler go anywhere else when he can get paid and win in Dallas?

Even the C's would not be interested unless it was a one year deal, the time for taking a shot at a ring with a big contract player was 2009, maybe 2010, not now. The C's are in position to compete as a dark-horse for 2012, then rebuild quickly via free agency or trade. Really, we are gonna blow all that on a big S&T for a guy who isn't even the best Center on the market? And has injury history? There is a reason this makes no sense.

[j804]

This would have to mean that Ray and/or maybe even KG would be gone then right?

huh weird

[PosImpos]

Seems like another example of a national broadcaster not understanding the whole picture and simply jumping to conclusions.  Still, one would think with all the talk about financial restrictions, people could figure this one out. 

Maybe they could work a sign and trade.  Still think it's a long shot though. 

See, I'd love to dismiss this, but this is David Aldridge we're talking about.  He doesn't seem to make stuff up.  I don't know how realistic it is, but I believe it has been discussed at some level.

I would not be surprised if the Celtics were willing to make a hard push for Chandler ( Sign and trade green and Baby) and Aldridge knew this.

Dallas would have to be absolutely nuts to sign-and-trade Chandler for Green / Baby.  Chandler was the piece that took their defense to a championship level.  Without Chandler, they don't win this last summer.  They don't need Green and Davis.

Chandler is a UFA - if he wanted to sign with us (major if, no evidence of this), Dallas wouldn't have a lot of choice.  They could refuse to do it, but then Chandler probably still goes somewhere else and leaves them with nothing to show for it.  Cleveland didn't want to sign-and-trade LeBron either.

EDIT:  I don't think there's any way this actually happens, just saying that it's not impossible if Chandler wanted it.

Sure, if he wanted to take a severe paycut when he just earned an even bigger paycheck after his play last year.

[heitingas]

Signing him means we have no shot in next years Free Agency, Howard or not we have to save our cap space and not waste it.

Maybe if he agrees to a vet minimum then of course I would take him.

[chambers]

Signing him means we have no shot in next years Free Agency, Howard or not we have to save our cap space and not waste it.

Maybe if he agrees to a vet minimum then of course I would take him.

Not if it's via sign and trade though right?
Doesn't cut into the cap space.

[FallGuy]

Complete nonsense. He's going back to Dallas.

[chambers]

Also if the Celtics sign Chandler, it doesn't put them out of the Howard race, you could argue it actually strengthens our chances by using Chandler in a trade for Howard if that's what Orlando demand.
Durrrrr.

[jdz101]

Since there is no law against indulging in fantasy...

Glen Davis (sign and trade), Avery Bradley, Marquis Daniels Trade Exception for Tyson Chandler.
Why Dallas does it?
1) They need a young combo guard with upside for the future. Jason Kidd is on the verge of retiring. Terry is getting old. Beaubois has had two foot surgeries. J.J. Barea, Caron Butler, Stevenson are all free agents.
2) They can use a backup Power-forward/Center. They can’t afford to keep Dirk, Haywood and Chandler. They can amnesty Haywood, but they would still have to pay a lot of money to keep Chandler and not have a quality big for backup.
3) They really need to shed salary fast with the new CBA. They can shed 4-5 million this way. While keeping the amnesty for Haywood for future years.
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Celtics
1) They need a center. Tyson Chandler is a pretty good center.

But wait Danny is not done...

Danny trades Tyson Chandler, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett Clippers pick, 2 future first rounders and a couple of second rounders for Dwight Howard and Gilbert Arenas.

Orlando gets:
1) 30+ Million in expiring contracts of Ray and KG to shed salary.
2) Getting rid of one of the worst contracts in history.
3) They will have a nice veteran core and several picks to rebuild on the fly. 
4) They can amnesty Turkoglu and get rid of their other horrible contract.

Boston gets:
1) Dwight Howard.
2) They can Amnesty Gilbert Arenas, fall under the cap and become a player in free agency. 
3) They sign Carl Landry and Jamal Crawford. 

Boston will look like:
Rondo - West
Crawford - E'Twaun Moore
Pierce - Green
Landry - JaJuan Johnson
Howard - Jermaine O'Neal

Orlando will look like:
Jameer Nelson - Duhon
Ray Allen - JJ Reddick
Hedo Turkoglu - Quentin Richardson
Kevin Garnett - Brandon Bass - Ryan Anderson
Tyson Chandler - Earl Clark

Dwight moves to a bigger market with a pass first, all-star, point guard, a good coach, a great franchise with a history of winning, and A hall of famer. 

Every one is happy... except Ray and KG.

Holy moley...you were right when you said fantasy...

[gpap]

Signing him means we have no shot in next years Free Agency, Howard or not we have to save our cap space and not waste it.

Maybe if he agrees to a vet minimum then of course I would take him.

What?? Chandler is an NBA champion and you would only sign him to a veteran minimum contract???!!

And since when was it a foregone conclusion that Howard was going to sign in Boston? I think it's very foolish to not look into signing good players just for the chance of landing a really good free agent.