Celtics moves for 2011-12 offseason

[heitingas]

Congrats first of all for the end of the lockout, let's talk about the Celtics moves this offseason that will only last until december 8 at midnight,that is less than two weeks.

We have only 6 players signed as of now(rondo/ray/pierce/kg/JO/bradley) and green has already been extended his QO this past summer.

I'm hoping he takes the one year QO and if there's any chance we could resign Davis for a one year contract, plus our draft picks.

The biggest difficulty is finding a starting center without using the MLE and losing a chance next year to get Howard.

[heitingas]

a small correction, free agency begins on december 9 when training camp starts.

[CFAN38]

depth is going to be huge this year!!

With a short season we can expect alot of short rest games, this is where Bradely and johnson are going to have to step up and give us young legs. We are also going to need to get players on this roster not just to rest for the playoffs but guys who can play real minutes for 66 games.

no knowing how the cap is going to work or exact roster size i would do the following

get West and green under contract

sign the following

  back up for KG...   C Landry is my first choice
      OR BBD,josh mcroberts, humphries, kirelinko,chuck hayes
 
  try to find a Center (not likely)....dalembert first choice
      nene,kwame brown ? not alot unrestricted FA

That leaves us

Center    JO, ((K Brown))
PF        KG, ((Landry)), J Johnson
SF        PP, (J Green)
SG        RA, (West),
PG        RR, Bradely

then round out the team with fillers
   Gary Forbes,Von Wafer, Jason Collins, Sasha Pavlovic,       Joel Pryzbilla

dark horse   
    try to sign Shane Battier and then play green more at the pf

[2short]

green, west, wafer resign
look to sign and trade davis, package deal if need be, my short guess is bradley doesn't have IT after being cut
I'd look at marquis if he's healthy, man can play 2-3 posistions for us, he'd be affordable and he'd be 3rd string sf, emergency pg and 2nd or 3rd string sg
center or long pf!!!!
still think I'd see what it would take to get a good center in trade
is krstic signed in europe and definately not coming back?

[celticinorlando]

Resign west and green...tell baby to kick rocks....fine five or six guys including a center and power forward

[Bring Back Antoine]

I think in general I would rather see us get younger, gamble on some guys only a couple years in. There is not much in the solid-proven-talent-for-a-decent-price group.

[Celtics18]

I'd be happy with bringing back last year's team, plus the rookies:

Starters:

Rondo
Allen
Pierce
Garnett
J. O'Neal

Bench:

Arroyo
West
Green
Davis
Krstic

Deep bench:

Bradley
Moore
Pavlovic
Johnson
Murphy

I don't know it that's feasible.  The primary sticking point is Curly.  He's a well paid starter and main guy for a championship contender in a country close to his home.  I don't know if he has any thoughts about leaving and coming back to the Celtics.

I don't even know if we'd be able to afford all those guys under the new rules.  

The above team is a legit contender in my view, though.  If everybody's willing to give it another run, I don't see any reason to shake things up.

[celticinorlando]

I think Johnson is going to help this team with important minutes

[Jon]

I am somewhat sick of BBD; however, given the harsher FA landscape under the new deal, there shouldn't be much of a market for him. And given that the season starts in less than a month, his familiarity with the team and system becomes even more of an asset.

The downside is that he's not a particularly good fit with Green, especially if we want Green to get minutes at the 4 (which he must have if we want him to get enough PT to be effective).

The answer might also be to have KG play some more 5. If you had him play half of his 32 minutes at the 5 spot, you'd largely solve the backup 5 problem AND you'd utilize the talent we currently have best by freeing up 32 minutes of PT per game at the 4 spot for Green and/or Baby.

Beyond that, I wouldn't sleep on Troy Murphy, Sasha Pavlovic, and Carlos Arroyo.  The two challenges this year for us will be to overcome a short training camp and to know that there likely won't be another chance with this group. Thus, having guys who already know the system and the team are especially important for us, so there won't be an adjustment period.

[Liam W]

There are a load of Free Agents out there that we could really use with

As for a Center I wouldnt worry, as there are quite a lot of big men available this offseason

EG: Pryzbilla, Kwame Brown, Nene, Chandler etc

As to other big names If i were Danny Ainge I would be defintley be looking at Tracy Mcgrady, Caron Butler, Josh Howard, Aaron Afflalo etc

A Center should be pretty easy to obtain, I do expect Delonte West, Jeff Green to return to Boston

Let Glen Davis walk. He is garbage, He is way too fat and cant dunk for a burger, he is also very undersized for a PF. Let him walk and look at someone else. as I said before there a load of Free Agents out there

NBA is back!

[greg_kite]

Number 1 priority is get the best center possible, or tall PF.  Unfortunately the C's probably won't have enough money to lure anyone good here, which is really just Nene and Dalembert.

The best fits for close to minimum would be Pryzbilla (if healthy), Josh McRoberts, Jeff Foster, Jason Smith, Erick Dampier and Jamaal Magloire.  It's a sad list but we'd be lucky to get one of them, ideally we could get two.  A healthy Pryzbilla and McRoberts would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath.

I think Green and Delonte will be back so I'm not too worried about the backup 1 and 3 (Green can backup Paul and KG if necessary and Paul can play some 2 as well).

The next priority would be backup 2 guard.  I like Pavlovic and think he could be a great fit.  He can play D and hit threes.  For the money the C's have that would be a great fit.

I read on ESPN that Von Wafer and Krstic are both signed overseas for the entire season and cannot come back just because the lockout ended.  If they can come back they would both be on the list.  JR Smith, Kenyon Martin and Wilson Chandler are all in the same situation.  KMart could be a good fit on the C's and could be affordable to the C's whenever he returns to the U.S.

I don't see Bradley or Johnson as contributors yet but the potential seems to be there.  Whatever they can add to this team would be a bonus.  If we can't get Delonte, Baby or another decent big man we might see these guys getting some minutes.  Ideally we will be good enough that these guys will still have to sit.

[GreenEnvy]

I'd be happy with bringing back last year's team, plus the rookies:

Starters:

Rondo
Allen
Pierce
Garnett
J. O'Neal

Bench:

Arroyo
West
Green
Davis
Krstic

Deep bench:

Bradley
Moore
Pavlovic
Johnson
Murphy

I don't know it that's feasible.  The primary sticking point is Curly.  He's a well paid starter and main guy for a championship contender in a country close to his home.  I don't know if he has any thoughts about leaving and coming back to the Celtics.

I don't even know if we'd be able to afford all those guys under the new rules.  

The above team is a legit contender in my view, though.  If everybody's willing to give it another run, I don't see any reason to shake things up.

We got run out of Miami then and we will be another year older. I'm in the mindset that had Shaq been available and Rondo had not broken his arm, we win that series. But we won't have Shaq next year and I doubt the rooks make any real impact soon (love to be wrong about that but JJ needs to put on a lot of weight before he can be a real NBA player).

We need someone else to spark this team. Green should be more comfortable, but surely if we keep BBD he will cause problem either on or off the court. I'm fine with Arroyo/West/Green as out backup backcourt, but we still need some help up front after KG and a fragile (but clearly effective when healthy) JO. I'd be willing to go with Murphy again as he can't possibly be as ineffective as he was last season. But I don't know if Green at PF or more BBD is the answer behind KG, who I feel will only be able to give us ~28 MPG at his intense level. We need around 20 minutes a game at PF IMO, and I don't know right now what the answer is.

Isn't Krstic gone? I thought he didn't get an opt-out clause in his contract.

[33-00-32]

Whomever they get I will be cheering for them all! Very glad we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm looking forward to the old guys getting 1 more chance and seeing the new guys in action too. Merry X-Mas to us all, now get busy Danny!!

[Goldstar88]

I am somewhat sick of BBD; however, given the harsher FA landscape under the new deal, there shouldn't be much of a market for him. And given that the season starts in less than a month, his familiarity with the team and system becomes even more of an asset.

The downside is that he's not a particularly good fit with Green, especially if we want Green to get minutes at the 4 (which he must have if we want him to get enough PT to be effective).

The answer might also be to have KG play some more 5. If you had him play half of his 32 minutes at the 5 spot, you'd largely solve the backup 5 problem AND you'd utilize the talent we currently have best by freeing up 32 minutes of PT per game at the 4 spot for Green and/or Baby.

Beyond that, I wouldn't sleep on Troy Murphy, Sasha Pavlovic, and Carlos Arroyo.  The two challenges this year for us will be to overcome a short training camp and to know that there likely won't be another chance with this group. Thus, having guys who already know the system and the team are especially important for us, so there won't be an adjustment period.

We dont want green to get minutes at the 4, hes a 3. He struggled at the 4. PP, JG, and RA should get all of the minutes at the 2,3, positons. KG playing the 5 against the majority of centers is not preferable either.

[Boris Badenov]

The Celts are in a bind.

They lack depth at every position except SF.

Their "premier" free agent, BBD, is unlikely to help much even if re-signed - what are the odds he's been keeping himself in NBA shape?

The starting center has played more than 42 games only once in the last five years.

Three other members of the starting five are old enough that the likelihood that one gets seriously injured is significant.

The kind of player the Celts need - a healthy, reliable rotation backup - is likely to be in extremely high demand given the short season. It will be difficult to land such players at any position, and we need them at C, PF, SG and PG.

Put all of this together and we are in tough shape.

Of course, this won't keep me from getting wildly optimistic if the C's start the season hot...and as long as they beat Miami a couple of times, I'm a happy camper!