Celtics moves for 2011-12 offseason

[Trifecta]

Josh Howard
T-Mac
Kwame Brown
Joel Pryzbilla
Caron Butler
Shane Battier
Deshawn Stevenson
Tayshaun Prince
Al Thornton
Leon Powe
Michael Redd
David West
Roger Mason
J-Rich

Are just a few names that we should be looking at

Get rid of KG and his mammoth $21million contract. He is 35 and isnt going to do anything. Trade now and clear the space for 2012, you could just keep him for this season, but i think we could get some draft picks for him or something.

Also look at moving Ray Allen on(36)to possibly sign someone like a Jason Richardson for example.

We have to get younger. this team was the oldest in the league last season. Ainge knows this + He needs to ship both KG + Ray Allen outta town

Richardson would be a lateral move. And you aren't getting much for KG and Ray at their ages. They will give you more than anything you will get in return. Better off letting their contracts expire and sign them on minimum deals after, rather than burning your bridges and trading them.

[rayallen_35_24]

Josh Howard
T-Mac
Kwame Brown
Joel Pryzbilla
Caron Butler
Shane Battier
Deshawn Stevenson
Tayshaun Prince
Al Thornton
Leon Powe
Michael Redd
David West
Roger Mason
J-Rich

Are just a few names that we should be looking at

Get rid of KG and his mammoth $21million contract. He is 35 and isnt going to do anything. Trade now and clear the space for 2012, you could just keep him for this season, but i think we could get some draft picks for him or something.

Also look at moving Ray Allen on(36)to possibly sign someone like a Jason Richardson for example.

We have to get younger. this team was the oldest in the league last season. Ainge knows this + He needs to ship both KG + Ray Allen outta town

Richardson would be a lateral move. And you aren't getting much for KG and Ray at their ages. They will give you more than anything you will get in return. Better off letting their contracts expire and sign them on minimum deals after, rather than burning your bridges and trading them.

exactly....

[Kane3387]

Josh Howard
T-Mac
Kwame Brown
Joel Pryzbilla
Caron Butler
Shane Battier
Deshawn Stevenson
Tayshaun Prince
Al Thornton
Leon Powe
Michael Redd
David West
Roger Mason
J-Rich

Are just a few names that we should be looking at

Get rid of KG and his mammoth $21million contract. He is 35 and isnt going to do anything. Trade now and clear the space for 2012, you could just keep him for this season, but i think we could get some draft picks for him or something.

Also look at moving Ray Allen on(36)to possibly sign someone like a Jason Richardson for example.

We have to get younger. this team was the oldest in the league last season. Ainge knows this + He needs to ship both KG + Ray Allen outta town

Age didn't hurt Dallas. Size killed the Spurs more then age did. I think as long as you're healthy in and during the playoffs that is all that matters.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Josh Howard
T-Mac
Kwame Brown
Joel Pryzbilla
Caron Butler
Shane Battier
Deshawn Stevenson
Tayshaun Prince
Al Thornton
Leon Powe
Michael Redd
David West
Roger Mason
J-Rich

Are just a few names that we should be looking at

Get rid of KG and his mammoth $21million contract. He is 35 and isnt going to do anything. Trade now and clear the space for 2012, you could just keep him for this season, but i think we could get some draft picks for him or something.

Also look at moving Ray Allen on(36)to possibly sign someone like a Jason Richardson for example.

We have to get younger. this team was the oldest in the league last season. Ainge knows this + He needs to ship both KG + Ray Allen outta town

Richardson would be a lateral move. And you aren't getting much for KG and Ray at their ages. They will give you more than anything you will get in return. Better off letting their contracts expire and sign them on minimum deals after, rather than burning your bridges and trading them.

So true, would rather have KG and Ray play their contracts out since there aint gonna be a lot to be recieved if they be traded. J-Rich and/or T-Mac should be a good mid level look up. Pryzbilla could probably sign for minimum, good backup (if healthy of course).

[Celtics18]

I'd be kinda p---ed if Danny even considered not giving these guys one last crack at it. 

We're a long shot, but I want to see my team go for one last run. 

We're not completely washed up yet.

[gpap]

Congrats first of all for the end of the lockout, let's talk about the Celtics moves this offseason that will only last until december 8 at midnight,that is less than two weeks.

We have only 6 players signed as of now(rondo/ray/pierce/kg/JO/bradley) and green has already been extended his QO this past summer.

I'm hoping he takes the one year QO and if there's any chance we could resign Davis for a one year contract, plus our draft picks.

The biggest difficulty is finding a starting center without using the MLE and losing a chance next year to get Howard.

Just out of curiosity, how does using the mid-level exception eliminate our chances of signing Howard? I don't get it. I thought using the MLE means that money is exempt from the team's salary cap.

Back to the question at hand, simple - Trade Rondo for CP3 and split the MLE between a center and small-forward (maybe Kwame and Prince??). Jeff Green backs up KG. Then next year, sign Howard!!

[PosImpos]

Congrats first of all for the end of the lockout, let's talk about the Celtics moves this offseason that will only last until december 8 at midnight,that is less than two weeks.

We have only 6 players signed as of now(rondo/ray/pierce/kg/JO/bradley) and green has already been extended his QO this past summer.

I'm hoping he takes the one year QO and if there's any chance we could resign Davis for a one year contract, plus our draft picks.

The biggest difficulty is finding a starting center without using the MLE and losing a chance next year to get Howard.

Just out of curiosity, how does using the mid-level exception eliminate our chances of signing Howard? I don't get it. I thought using the MLE means that money is exempt from the team's salary cap.

The money used on an MLE contract is not exempt from the team's salary cap.

Rather, a team is allowed to give out the contract even though they are over the cap.  The value of the contract is still added to their cap number, though.

[gpap]

Really?? Okay, strange. For some reason I thought it was called a mid-level exception because it didn't count towards the team's cap. Thanks for clarifying. Well, I still think we need to sign a big man.

[cman88]

I think the amnesty clause might help us as well...theres going to be alot of big name vets(on bad contracts) released and we should be one of the top teams to nab them

[JSD]

My Celtic wish list while keeping a few things in mind:

1. Signing or trading for any player under contract beyond this season will cut into 2012 (Dwight Howard) cap space. So that CANNOT happen in my opinion. We need to be in position to at least make a pitch at that massive guy.

2. Being over the cap we have very few options to sign players outside of the league minimum, sign and trades, and the mid level exception.

Starters:
Jermaine O'neal C
Kevin Garnett PF
Paul Pierce SF
Ray Allen SG
Rajon Rondo PG

Bench
Jeff Green SF/PF – Resign him using the qualifying offer ($6 million). The only way we cannot do that is if another team comes along and offers him a long term contract that the Celtics decline to match.

Avery Bradly PG – Still on rookie contract.

Ben Wallace C/PF - He can provide a solid 10-15 minutes off the bench while giving us some good energy on the glass and defensive end. He's still under contract for 1 year/$2.5 million so it would take a trade. What about a Big Baby sign and trade to Detroit for Wallac? It's a worthwhile deal, especially if Davis is just going to walk anyway.

JaJuan Johnson PF/C - Rookie I know nothing about.

Troy Murphy PF/C - He is a heck of a lot better than what he showed in his brief stint here last season. let's bring him back on the cheap and give it another shot. The guy can pull down rebounds and shoot when he remembers how to play.

Von Wafer SG/SF - He has a great passion for the game and a pretty jump-shot. bring him back on the ultra cheep

Delonte West SG/PG - The guy would be a full MLE player if he didn't get injured every other game. Bring him on back on the cheap, baby.

E'Twaun Moore - Rookie I know nothing about.

Kenyon Martin PF/C - Could be the guy to go after with our Mid Level Exception. He rebounds, can score and plays solid D.

[heitingas]

here is my prediction and wishes for our roster

Green - takes the QO
Davis - resigns a 1 year deal
rookies - sign both
West - resigns

that's 11 players and we still have the TPE, the Mini-MLE and round out the roster.

for the TPE I suggest we try to get Terrence Williams and offer a future 2nd round pick.
Mini-MLE should be used on a big man and then use the stretch exception next year to clear some cap space. If Kenyon Martin
is available after the chinese league finishes in March we sign him to thath mini-MLE or if a guy like Haywood is available he could come to us for that money, if he likes to go to a contender the most contenders can't offer more than we could anyway so we have a shot.

[CelticsFanNC]

  Personally I think this years team is going to be a bridge year towards the rebuild/reload of the following seasons.  It doesn't make me happy to think that but to me that is where we are. I will go into the season hoping for the best but expecting mediocrity and inconsistency.  I just don't see this team contending for much other then a playoff spot this season.  Ainge has very little to work with so unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat we wont see any roster upgrades over last season  and that team just wasn't good enough.  He's not going to make any splashy trades with any of our old core because he is better off letting their contracts run out and gaining that cap space then possibly resigning them in lesser roles for less money.

  This season is going to be frustrating.  Some nights they will have the energy to look very much like the Celtics we have seen these past few seasons but with a compressed schedule there are going to be a lot of night where the Big Three just look old.

  I hope I am wrong.  I hope the Big Three has the energy to play like we have been accustomed to seeing them play for one more season.  I hope Jeff Green signs the qualifying offer, blossoms into at least a quality starter in this system and EARNS a contract extension.  I hope Rondo's finds the consistency he need to be all he can be as a player.  I hope Glen Davis realizes he is a career back up, energy guy and stops trying to be more then he is(I wont hold my breath). I hope Jermaine O'Neal finds the fountain of youth and can be a consistent, quality center. I hope some of our youngsters can and are allowed to step into the big time.

It's going to take all of that and then some to contend for an NBA title this season.  

[Ganguido]

Greets to all Celtic Nation from cold Russia !
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I have one question.This is my first post ever.So pls be patient
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We have 2 problems as I understand right now:
1.We have no healthy C (only JO with glass knees).
2.We have no players to trade to Magic if Dwight will be traded this season.
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According to some rumours about new CBA:
1.If there is season (cut 20% of the games) - NBA will cut 20% of salaries and we have about 51M in our payroll.
2.We have SNT.
3.We have amnesty rule.
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Here is my question:
If we will move JO contract - trade for pick smwhr or amnesty him - we will cut 6.2M - and we won't sign Davis (which mean near 4M) - we have 10M available!
So - IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO OFFER 10-12M TO MARC GASOL
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Memphis most likely won't have money to match this offer.
We will have Gasol Jr. - no JO,no Baby - and good chances for D-12 trade with Gasol+player+pix.
If no trade for Dwight we will have strong young center and Danny would have money for next summer to bring 1-2 great players to this core.
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Sorry if I waste your time

[greg_kite]

Josh Howard
T-Mac
Kwame Brown
Joel Pryzbilla
Caron Butler
Shane Battier
Deshawn Stevenson
Tayshaun Prince
Al Thornton
Leon Powe
Michael Redd
David West
Roger Mason
J-Rich

Are just a few names that we should be looking at

Get rid of KG and his mammoth $21million contract. He is 35 and isnt going to do anything. Trade now and clear the space for 2012, you could just keep him for this season, but i think we could get some draft picks for him or something.

Also look at moving Ray Allen on(36)to possibly sign someone like a Jason Richardson for example.

We have to get younger. this team was the oldest in the league last season. Ainge knows this + He needs to ship both KG + Ray Allen outta town

I don't see KG and Ray going anywhere unless they are getting young All Start type talent in return.

From your list above I think the C's will be able to afford guys like Pryzbilla, Redd, McGrady and Leon(!).  I don't see a need for TMac at all.  Kwame is big but he makes Perk look fluid offensively.  I'd much rather have Fesenko or Jeff Foster.

[gar]

with JJuan and Green on the floor at the same time have some very quick high flyers. Need a center to anchor that unit and play big minutes when JO's knees burnout. Think they should not resign BBD. Was clear he wanted out. Battier would be sweet; but hard to see where he gets his minutes. Should sign D West and Arron Gray or Josh McRoberts.