Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB H2H League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[Gainesville Celtic]

TPs to all for the funny responses, 

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

^^ what a crank 

[barefacedmonk]

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

So, do you want Earl Clark for your 2013 second? Whoever you draft isn't going to make your roster anyway.

[Roy H.]

TPs to all for the funny responses, 

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal. 

But yeah, in all seriousness, I don't see any major need for the rule.  GC's arguments are well taken, but there's no reason why we can't sort through the confusion.  (And yes, there can be a fairly big difference between the 31st pick in the draft and the 37th pick).

[Gainesville Celtic]

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

So, do you want Earl Clark for your 2013 second? Whoever you draft isn't going to make your roster anyway.

that's not what I said... I Said many of the 2nd rounders don't make the fantasy teams they're drafted by (for good reason...btw). Also you can't trade 2013 2nd rounders yet. 

TPs to all for the funny responses, 

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal. 

But yeah, in all seriousness, I don't see any major need for the rule.  GC's arguments are well taken, but there's no reason why we can't sort through the confusion.  (And yes, there can be a fairly big difference between the 31st pick in the draft and the 37th pick).

it's fine.... we couldnt' change the rule till next summer (prior to the draft for next year), but I'm sure I'll be proven right...

I'll bookmark these posts and bring it back up after the 2012 cut-down date.   

BTW: this year #31-40 were:
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Keith Benson
Jimmy Butler
Etwan Moore
Nolan Smith
Justin Harper
Nikola Mirotic
Chandler Parsons
Cory Joseph
Jordan Williams



last year:
31. Lucky17 (via blake) Luke Harangody
32. IndeedProceed Pape Sy
33. The Naturals Derrick Caracter
34. Kwhit’s Pumpkinheads Greivis Vasquez
35. Truck Lewis Daniel Orton
36. Birdman (via Rondo2287) Lance Stephenson
37. Champs FunCookers Lazar Hayward
38. Lucky17 (via Draft Dodgers) Solomon Alabi
39. LarryBird17 (via Utah Flash) Tibor Pleiss
40. Yall Hate Dexter Pittman

2 years back:
31    Gainesville    Toney Douglas    Chase Budinger
32    The WW    Wayne Ellington    
33    Utah Flash    DaJuan Summers    
34    Birdman    Sam Young    
35    Ya’ll Hate    Christian Eyenga    
36    ChampKind    Jermaine Taylor    
37    KG All-Stars    Derrick Brown    
38    Lucky17    Jonas Jerebko    
39    Shipyard    Chase Budinger    
40    Lucky17    Dante Cunningham

[Lucky17]

I've done fairly well with 2nd rounders.

I'll be hiring myself out as a consultant during this year's draft, at the low, low price of 5 TPs an hour.

[barefacedmonk]

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

So, do you want Earl Clark for your 2013 second? Whoever you draft isn't going to make your roster anyway.

that's not what I said... I Said many of the 2nd rounders don't make the fantasy teams they're drafted by (for good reason...btw). Also you can't trade 2013 2nd rounders yet. 

I know..but who said everything has to be declared this season.

[barefacedmonk]

And to anybody else that doesn't care for second round picks, try getting Donatas (who I picked in the second round) from hpantazo.

[barefacedmonk]

I've done fairly well with 2nd rounders.

I'll be hiring myself out as a consultant during this year's draft, at the low, low price of 5 TPs an hour.

Hired..as long as you're willing to sign a 5 year contract.

[hpantazo]

And to anybody else that doesn't care for second round picks, try getting Donatas (who I picked in the second round) from hpantazo.

Haha, yea, I won't even consider trading Donatas for a 2012 first, and he was a CB 2nd round pick, who I tried desperately to move up to draft but couldn't. Those late second rounders from two years ago look pretty good btw. Chase Budinger, Jonas Jerebko and Sam Young particularly.

[Kane3387]

And to anybody else that doesn't care for second round picks, try getting Donatas (who I picked in the second round) from hpantazo.

Haha, yea, I won't even consider trading Donatas for a 2012 first, and he was a CB 2nd round pick, who I tried desperately to move up to draft but couldn't. Those late second rounders from two years ago look pretty good btw. Chase Budinger, Jonas Jerebko and Sam Young particularly.

Sam Young on the block packaged with MMSB's second rounder which has the potential to almost be as good as a late first rounder in a deep draft.

[Kwhit10]

last year:
31. Lucky17 (via blake) Luke Harangody
32. IndeedProceed Pape Sy
33. The Naturals Derrick Caracter
34. Kwhit’s Pumpkinheads Greivis Vasquez
35. Truck Lewis Daniel Orton
36. Birdman (via Rondo2287) Lance Stephenson
37. Champs FunCookers Lazar Hayward
38. Lucky17 (via Draft Dodgers) Solomon Alabi
39. LarryBird17 (via Utah Flash) Tibor Pleiss
40. Yall Hate Dexter Pittman

2 years back:
31    Gainesville    Toney Douglas    
32    The WW    Wayne Ellington    
33    Utah Flash    DaJuan Summers    
34    Birdman    Sam Young    
35    Ya’ll Hate    Christian Eyenga    
36    ChampKind    Jermaine Taylor    
37    KG All-Stars    Derrick Brown    
38    Lucky17    Jonas Jerebko    
39    Shipyard    Chase Budinger    
40    Lucky17    Dante Cunningham

Bam, thank you thank you, turned him (with Aaron Brooks) into Joe Johnson which led to Dorrell Wright.  So don't be so dismissive of those second rounders.


*Cough* P.S. I do have 3 2nd rounders that will most probably be in the top ten of the round *cough*

[The Walker Wiggle]

TPs to all for the funny responses,  

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal.

That's how it's going to be? Okay, I'm also fine with the continued swap of 2nds if Hobbs here will volunteer to track them. Balls back in your court.

Those late second rounders from two years ago look pretty good btw. Chase Budinger, Jonas Jerebko and Sam Young particularly.

This is such a deep league that a handful of second round picks do contribute enough to be fantasy relevant every season. But I also wonder if most or all aren't at some point available off the wire? I know that's where I found both Jerebko and Young. And I won't even talk about Marcus Thornton.

[barefacedmonk]

TPs to all for the funny responses,  

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal.

That's how it's going to be? Okay, I'm also fine with the continued swap of 2nds if Hobbs here will volunteer to track them. Balls back in your court.

So, you want to put a ban on swaps to make Lucky's job easier? Just trying to understand your POV.

[Gainesville Celtic]

TPs to all for the funny responses, 

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal.

That's how it's going to be? Okay, I'm also fine with the continued swap of 2nds if Hobbs here will volunteer to track them. Balls back in your court.

Those late second rounders from two years ago look pretty good btw. Chase Budinger, Jonas Jerebko and Sam Young particularly.

This is such a deep league that a handful of second round picks do contribute enough to be fantasy relevant every season. But I also wonder if most or all aren't at some point available off the wire? I know that's where I found both Jerebko and Young. And I won't even talk about Marcus Thornton.

Once again THE WW nails it...
(are we sure WW doesn't = wise (w)one not walker wiggle.)


FWIW, i think people are missing the point on what I said originally or goofin around/bustin chops bc there's still no real NBA news.

TPs to all for the funny responses, 

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal.

That's how it's going to be? Okay, I'm also fine with the continued swap of 2nds if Hobbs here will volunteer to track them. Balls back in your court.

So, you want to put a ban on swaps to make Lucky's job easier? Just trying to understand your POV.

Actually BFM I think WW is being a but sarcastic here...again (Which he leads the league in; and which I treasure him for)

But Yes .... My initial point (which I think WW agreeing with) is that it's a pain for lucky or whoever to track "the lesser of three 2nd rounders" deals when those same GMs (and in fact most GMs) end up waiving (rightly or wrongly) many/most of those guys who do pan out as 2nd rounders.

[barefacedmonk]

TPs to all for the funny responses,  

but I'm actually serious. It'd have to be for next year, but I think its silly when you think about how many of the 2nd rounders never make the fantasy teams they're drafted by.

Fine with me.

I am now contractually bound to oppose this proposal.

That's how it's going to be? Okay, I'm also fine with the continued swap of 2nds if Hobbs here will volunteer to track them. Balls back in your court.

So, you want to put a ban on swaps to make Lucky's job easier? Just trying to understand your POV.

Yes .... The point is that it's a pain for lucky or whoever to track "the lesser of three 2nd rounders when those same GMs (and in fact most GMs) end up waiving (rightly or wrongly) many/most of those guys who do pan out as 2nd rounders.

Anything else we can ban to make Lucky's life easier?

Swapping picks is that hard?? Who knew....

So we should only swap picks if we are going to keep the players we draft ...I don't understand some of the rules that you and TWW come up with...but if it gives you something to discuss, then by all means...keep discussing.

Unless the commish says that he has a problem with the swaps, I don't see anything wrong with it..he is the one who has to deal with all the trades after all. I see the swaps as an insurance policy...and attaching conditions to a pick is not unheard of...