Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB H2H League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[hpantazo]

The unusual issue we have to keep in mind for this season is the lockout. It has affected players decisions to go abroad and/or stay abroad. This won't happen too often.

[jgod213]

Anyone interested in a local product?

[barefacedmonk]

Anyone interested in a local product?

Only if its 100% organic.

[jgod213]

Anyone interested in a local product?

Only if its 100% organic.

Haha.  For a 2nd round pick i'll include two farm-raised tommy points.

[barefacedmonk]

Check your PM, jgod.

[Lucky17]

Trade to announce (from earlier, now confirmed):

Toine's Boys send A.J. Price
JGod213 sends Brandon Rush

And a follow up deal:

Toine's Boys send Brandon Rush and Earl Clark
Designated Drinkers send Beno Udrih and Yall Hate's 2012 2nd rounder

[Roy H.]

Interesting trades.  Udrih is probably my favorite player dealt, but his situation is up in the air.  Rush is a decent enough player, too.  I'm not as fond of Price, but who knows?

[barefacedmonk]

Interesting trades.  Udrih is probably my favorite player dealt, but his situation is up in the air.  Rush is a decent enough player, too.  I'm not as fond of Price, but who knows?

I wasn't going to keep Udrih..and I don't plan on keeping Rush or Clark..but they are younger so they maybe easier to deal..who knows.

[Gainesville Celtic]

Seriously guys, give it a break once in a while...or make your own deals and show others what a good deal is.

Sure, but you never think of my feelings when we talk trades. "He's too old." "He's washed up." "He's got one foot in the grave."  Yes, that last one is a BareFacedMonk quote.

But I'll keep it down.

Anyway, hat tip to Hpantazo for having thick skin. He should certainly feel free to celebrate my starters start retiring.

Yeah, I should have kept quiet and taken Grant Hill.

Look, you and GC feel every player on your roster is a LeBron James or a Dwight Howard. And if someone rejects your offer they get a LONG explanation how you were going to take a loss on the trade, how it makes your team worse but you're still willing to do it (thanks..not looking for charity), how you're a contender and that I would be messing up your team etc etc. I've received plenty of low ball offers (and I'm sure others have felt I was low balling them) but I don't come out here in public and cry about it if something falls through..and nor do I go overboard and criticize every [dang] trade that takes place.

Mea Culpa

I would like to say that I've not been much of an Ubuntu GM this offseason and for that and to the rest of the league, I'd like to apologize.

Several times over the last month I publicly complained about or belittled other GMs and/or their trades. I think that most here know -- mostly through Celticsblog Draft & past seasons in this league -- that that's not really my style.

I don't really have an explanation for it but there's not an excuse --- mostly because it takes away from folks enjoying the game. We should all run our teams the way we want and no one really knows what's gonna happen.

This'll be the last I say about it and will "be more Ubuntu" from here on out 




(All that said, I think my postings (bad) are fundamentally different from other GMs weighing in (good) on who, in their mind, wins/loses a given trade.)

[jgod213]

Interesting trades.  Udrih is probably my favorite player dealt, but his situation is up in the air.  Rush is a decent enough player, too.  I'm not as fond of Price, but who knows?

yeah in a trade like this it kinda comes down to gm-preference.  i needed depth at the PG position, although price certainly wasnt my first choice i do think he's young enough to develope a bit further.  Meanwhile, i've been very dissapointed by how Rush has regressed, he showed a lot of promise his rookie year.

[Gainesville Celtic]

Interesting trades.  Udrih is probably my favorite player dealt, but his situation is up in the air.  Rush is a decent enough player, too.  I'm not as fond of Price, but who knows?

yeah in a trade like this it kinda comes down to gm-preference.  i needed depth at the PG position, although price certainly wasnt my first choice i do think he's young enough to develope a bit further.  Meanwhile, i've been very dissapointed by how Rush has regressed, he showed a lot of promise his rookie year.

I felt the same way going into last year in the Pts. league... I thought Rush had the chance to be a poor man's Pierce. I guess he still does, but a lot will depend on where he ends up, there's just too much talent ahead of him in IND.

[Roy H.]

Since Nate is getting his release from OKC and will be a free agent, I'm inclined to hold onto him. 

If anybody is interested in Avery Bradley, let me know.

[Kwhit10]

Can we get clarity on an issue I saw on the spreadsheet?

TWW has the rights to swap 1st rounders with the Webskins

However, it appears the Webskins 1st rounder belongs to Fairweatherfan (rusted rims).

So what does this mean?

[barefacedmonk]

Can we get clarity on an issue I saw on the spreadsheet?

TWW has the rights to swap 1st rounders with the Webskins

However, it appears the Webskins 1st rounder belongs to Fairweatherfan (rusted rims).

So what does this mean?

My understanding is that TWW has the right to swap picks first. FWF either gets Webskins' first or TWW's first depending on what TWW decides to do.

[Kwhit10]

Can we get clarity on an issue I saw on the spreadsheet?

TWW has the rights to swap 1st rounders with the Webskins

However, it appears the Webskins 1st rounder belongs to Fairweatherfan (rusted rims).

So what does this mean?

My understanding is that TWW has the right to swap picks first. FWF either gets Webskins' first or TWW's first depending on what TWW decides to do.

Thanks, makes sense.  TP