Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB H2H League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[mkogav]

Here's a rule proposal for next season that might not be as unpopular as my push to cut the Utility spot:

Allow team's to carry the rights to one international player, acquired through the draft (Valanciunas, Mirotic, Singler etc., this season) or previously on the roster (Chandler, Brooks, Smith) with the understanding that whenever the player signs in the NBA that team must immediately make a cut to create roster space or lose the player's rights.

This could be included on the roster document as easily as we track the myriad conditional second round picks. And to prevent prospecting, managers, such as myself, wouldn't be allowed to sign and hold international F.A.s from previous draft classes, the Fran Vasquezes of the world. Could be a benefit to those teams drafting a lottery talent still playing overseas? I hated seeing the Bacon drop Rubio two years ago, but it was defensible given how hard it is to compete nightly carrying place holders.

I am all for this rule, I think it's a great idea.

I agree. I like this rule.

Dibs on Ben Pepper.

Mk

[Lucky17]

An interesting idea, Dubs.

BTW, I would not be for this for the points league. In H2H, where roster slots are more precious, I think it's worthy of discussion.

[celtsrp33]

I like it!  I want Rubio back!!! 

Willing to package Odom, Mirotic, Jeremy Tyler and Singler for a one or two player return.  Send some offers...

[The Walker Wiggle]

An interesting idea, Dubs.

Thanks. I plan on squandering my suddenly high approval rating with harsh trade criticisms and efforts to push through less popular league reforms.

[Kwhit10]

I'm all for the one international prospect spot per team.  I mean, come on, who doesn't love prospecting?

[Roy H.]

I'm all for the one international prospect spot per team.  I mean, come on, who doesn't love prospecting?

The problem is that there's no great mechanism to add these prospects to our roster, unless they're already there.  A team with 16 players can't claim them off of waivers, meaning that there's an inherent advantage for teams who already own guys playing abroad.  They'll get to take advantage of essentially a 17 player roster, whereas teams with all NBA players will only be able to have 16 players.

It's a neat concept, and I'd like to discuss it a little further.  It would have to go into effect with next year's draft (since lots of folks have already made roster decisions), but it's worth discussing.  

EDIT:  I missed the part where WW suggested it for next season.  Under those circumstances, I think I'm on board.  It potentially prejudices teams that have dealt draft picks, but otherwise there's not a lot of harm.

To further level the playing field, what about a tweak that only guys added to rosters on or after next year's draft are eligible?  That way, teams that already have a bunch of international guys aren't given an unfair advantage (which amounts to an extra roster spot).  Of course, that can be a bit of an accounting nightmare, so I don't know.

[Kwhit10]

I'm all for the one international prospect spot per team.  I mean, come on, who doesn't love prospecting?

The problem is that there's no great mechanism to add these prospects to our roster, unless they're already there.  A team with 16 players can't claim them off of waivers, meaning that there's an inherent advantage for teams who already own guys playing abroad.  They'll get to take advantage of essentially a 17 player roster, whereas teams with all NBA players will only be able to have 16 players.

It's a neat concept, and I'd like to discuss it a little further.  It would have to go into effect with next year's draft (since lots of folks have already made roster decisions), but it's worth discussing. 

True, in this current situation it would benefit those teams whose players went overseas due to the lockout issue.  But beyond that and using second round picks on overseas prospects seems more in line of what this would be used for.

[jgod213]

I like it!  I want Rubio back!!! 

Willing to package Odom, Mirotic, Jeremy Tyler and Singler for a one or two player return.  Send some offers...

haha. hey, I'M the one that's had to suffer the consequences of keeping Rubio on my roster for the past two years...

[ChampKind]

1. I'm in favor of WW's proposal for overseas players. Whatever keeps my dumb ass from doing a repeat of the Krstic drama from a few years back is a good thing.

2. Here are my cuts:

Yao Ming
Sonny Weems

I'm sure they won't last long on the waiver wire.

[Gomesfan]

Is peja playing this year?

[Gomesfan]

I am looking to do a 3-1 or 2-1 trade in both leagues to cut down my roster, especially points league

[Lucky17]

I am looking to do a 3-1 or 2-1 trade in both leagues to cut down my roster, especially points league

Yeah, 21 players on your points league roster. Although some of those are easy decisions.

[The Walker Wiggle]

To further level the playing field, what about a tweak that only guys added to rosters on or after next year's draft are eligible?  That way, teams that already have a bunch of international guys aren't given an unfair advantage (which amounts to an extra roster spot).  Of course, that can be a bit of an accounting nightmare, so I don't know.

Yeah, I see your point, but I'm not sure that the extra accounting is worth it to counterbalance what should be a small advantage? Teams will still have to carry said players for the entirety of this season, at considerable disadvantage, and then I expect nearly everyone except Mirotic to land stateside next offseason. (If not sooner, in the case of the NBA vets in China.)

Anyway, Lucky, you're the commissioner, think it over, it seems to have enough support to pass a league vote, but I won't push it further unless you're on board.

Is peja playing this year?

Remains to be seen. He's still a free agent.

[The Walker Wiggle]

I'm in favor of WW's proposal for overseas players. Whatever keeps my dumb ass from doing a repeat of the Krstic drama from a few years back is a good thing.

We'll call it the Krstic clause.

[barefacedmonk]

To the person that's hovering over Blatche: send me an offer if you're interested.