Basketball HOF Survivor Game

[mooltrikon]

Pau Gasol (32)
Manu Ginobili (40)
Grant Hill (47)
Dwight Howard (13)
Allen Iverson ( 8 )
LeBron James (17)
Reggie Miller (30)
Yao Ming (4)
Dikembe Mutombo (13)
Steve Nash (34)
Dirk Nowitzki (58)
Dwyane Wade (30)

[mooltrikon]

Ok.  I get it about the negative Tommy Points.  It's good I asked.  I would have never figured out the truth otherwise.

[Redz]

Pau Gasol (31)
Manu Ginobili (38)
Grant Hill (47)
Dwight Howard (13)
Allen Iverson ( 7 )
LeBron James (18)
Reggie Miller (31)
Yao Ming (4)
Dikembe Mutombo (11)
Steve Nash (36)
Dirk Nowitzki (60)
Dwyane Wade (32)

[Roy H.]

Pau Gasol (32)
Manu Ginobili (39)
Grant Hill (47)
Dwight Howard (8 )
Allen Iverson ( 7 )
LeBron James (17)
Reggie Miller (31)
Yao Ming (3)
Dikembe Mutombo (10)
Steve Nash (36)
Dirk Nowitzki (61)
Dwyane Wade (37)

[Eja117]

I'm a little thrown off on people going after Iverson.

I pretty much expected it.  Iverson is the biggest representative of what a lot of people hated about the 90s and early 2000s game, and some fans despise him in a way that kind of transcends his actual resume, which is better than a lot of players with more points. 

Kind of weird too that Grant Hill is above Steve Nash and Howard well above LeBron.  I understand liking Hill and not liking LeBron at this point, but I don't see how Howard in particular has a better resume than LeBron.

Pau Gasol (21)
Manu Ginobili (29)
Grant Hill (42)
Dwight Howard (21)
Allen Iverson (12)
Mark Jackson (13)
LeBron James (12)
Tracy McGrady (7)
Reggie Miller (32)
Yao Ming (14)
Dikembe Mutombo (21)
Steve Nash (33)
Dirk Nowitzki (43)
Amar'e Stoudemire (2)
Dwyane Wade (20)

Iverson +3, Nash +3, Reggie +1, LeBron +1
Amar'e -2, T-Mac -2, Howard -2, Gasol -2

Bron is a quitter and runs from a challenge. He had a far better collection of talent around him than Howard

[Eja117]

Pau Gasol (32)
Manu Ginobili (40)
Grant Hill (48)
Dwight Howard (7 )
Allen Iverson ( 10)
LeBron James (14)
Reggie Miller (31)
Yao Ming (0)
Dikembe Mutombo (13)
Steve Nash (36)
Dirk Nowitzki (61)
Dwyane Wade (36)

-3 Lebron -3 Yao and he is done  -1 D Wade -1 D Howard

+3 Allen Iverson + 3  Mutumbo +1 Grant +1 Manu

[Who]

Pau Gasol (32)
Manu Ginobili (40)
Grant Hill (43)
Dwight Howard (7)
Allen Iverson (13)
LeBron James (17)
Reggie Miller (30)
Dikembe Mutombo (12)
Steve Nash (36)
Dirk Nowitzki (61)
Dwyane Wade (35)

Increase: Iverson and LeBron +3, Manu and Pau +1
Decrease: Grant Hill -5, Deke -1, Reggie -1, Wade -1

[Eja117]

Pau Gasol (33)
Manu Ginobili (40)
Grant Hill (43)
Dwight Howard (6)
Allen Iverson (16)
LeBron James (12)
Reggie Miller (31)
Dikembe Mutombo (15)
Steve Nash (35)
Dirk Nowitzki (61)
Dwyane Wade (34)

-5 Lebron -1 D Wade -1 D Howard -1 Nash   Wow. I didn't see myself taking points from Nash, but it has happened

+3 Deke +3 AI +1 Pau +1 Reggie


Hmmmm. Nash over Reggie?  Yeah. I don't think so

[Who]

I think Grant Hill's college accomplishments are overstated.

Hill wasn't a star player on either of those two national titles. Christian Laettner was their leader and Bobby Hurley was their second best player. Grant Hill was a good starter on the first title team and a third wheel on the second. He didn't become an elite college player until after Laettner left.

I don't think his college resume and injury riddled NBA career is enough to push him above all the players he is ranked ahead of right now.

[Roy H.]

Pau Gasol (34)
Manu Ginobili (41)
Grant Hill (43)
Dwight Howard (1)
Allen Iverson (15)
LeBron James (12)
Reggie Miller (30)
Dikembe Mutombo (14)
Steve Nash (35)
Dirk Nowitzki (62)
Dwyane Wade (39)

[mgent]

Pau Gasol (30)
Manu Ginobili (42)
Grant Hill (44)
Dwight Howard (0)
Allen Iverson (14)
LeBron James (12)
Reggie Miller (30)
Dikembe Mutombo (12)
Steve Nash (35)
Dirk Nowitzki (67)
Dwyane Wade (40)

+5 Dirk, +1 Manu, + 1 Hill, +1 Wade

-1 Dwight, -4 Gasol, -2 Mutombo, -1 Iverson

[Truck Lewis]

Pau Gasol (30)
Manu Ginobili (38)
Grant Hill (44)
Dwight Howard (0)
Allen Iverson (18)
LeBron James (8 )
Reggie Miller (30)
Dikembe Mutombo (16)
Steve Nash (35)
Dirk Nowitzki (67)
Dwyane Wade (40)

Plus 4 for AI and Mutombo,,,, Minus 4 for Manu and LBJ

[syfy9]

Pau Gasol (29)
Manu Ginobili (37)
Grant Hill (45)
Dwight Howard (0)
Allen Iverson (23)
LeBron James (3)
Reggie Miller (31)
Dikembe Mutombo (16)
Steve Nash (36)
Dirk Nowitzki (66)
Dwyane Wade (40)

Gotta keep the star of "Press Hop" alive...Iverson for 5, Nash, Miller,and Hill all get 1.

Dirk,Pau and Manu all go down 1, death to Lebron James(-5)!

[mooltrikon]

Pau Gasol (31)
Manu Ginobili (37)
Grant Hill (43)
Allen Iverson (21)
LeBron James (5)
Reggie Miller (29)
Dikembe Mutombo (14)
Steve Nash (36)
Dirk Nowitzki (68)
Dwyane Wade (42)

[Eja117]

I think Grant Hill's college accomplishments are overstated.

Hill wasn't a star player on either of those two national titles. Christian Laettner was their leader and Bobby Hurley was their second best player. Grant Hill was a good starter on the first title team and a third wheel on the second. He didn't become an elite college player until after Laettner left.

I don't think his college resume and injury riddled NBA career is enough to push him above all the players he is ranked ahead of right now.

I admit I sorta thought of that, but some of these other players didn't play college ball and have no accomplishments at all. I sorta feel like the Olympics even out a little.