Meeting Concludes Without Deal / Ongoing Lockout Negotiations Thread

[Adelaide Celt]

Could we really have heard the last of: 'Both sides are still far apart on important issues'?

Surely not

[Chris]

Could we really have heard the last of: 'Both sides are still far apart on important issues'?

Surely not

We will see what happens after the sides speak with their constituents this morning.  If they are still optimistic after today, then I will feel much better.

[dmny5000]

Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski:

"Signs of labor optimism: Team execs cancelling scouting trips, preparing for free agency. Agents quietly reaching out to teams on players."

[Roy H.]

Regarding progress yesterday:

Alan Hahn: Heard accomplishments yesterday: length of guaranteed contracts, mid-level exception and amnesty. Also got "solid answers" on BRI issues

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c1a76gER

[dmny5000]

Regarding progress yesterday:

Alan Hahn: Heard accomplishments yesterday: length of guaranteed contracts, mid-level exception and amnesty. Also got "solid answers" on BRI issues

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c1a76gER

I'm trying not to get too excited like I did last week but I'm doing it again. This time it seems a lot better but we'll see how the rest of the current meeting goes. All news is very positive so far though.

[Roy H.]

Regarding progress yesterday:

Alan Hahn: Heard accomplishments yesterday: length of guaranteed contracts, mid-level exception and amnesty. Also got "solid answers" on BRI issues

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c1a76gER

I'm trying not to get too excited like I did last week but I'm doing it again. This time it seems a lot better but we'll see how the rest of the current meeting goes. All news is very positive so far though.

Yeah, I don't want to get too amped, because they still have BRI and the luxury tax structure to figure out.  However, there's finally some positive momentum.

[j804]

@KBergCBS
Team execs I've spoken with optimistic for deal by Monday, but cautious. One says gut tells him "this will blow up one more time."

I like where things are looking even if it blows up one last time - hell we would be so close with just the BRI left it would fall through eventually most likely.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Marc Stein:

Example of "system" issue where NBA owners/players now agree? Sign-and-trades WILL be allowed in new deal after fears they'd be outlawed. BUT... one sign-and-trade wrinkle sides still negotiating is whether teams over luxury tax will be allowed to partake in S-and-T deals.

I'm actually not a fan of the sign-and-trade, but at this late date I'm fine with any compromise that brings us closer to an NBA season.

[hpantazo]

@KBergCBS
Team execs I've spoken with optimistic for deal by Monday, but cautious. One says gut tells him "this will blow up one more time."

I like where things are looking even if it blows up one last time - hell we would be so close with just the BRI left it would fall through eventually most likely.

I'm not too worried about them agreeing on the BRI, it's the luxury tax/hard cap issue that still worries me. Hopefully they can work that one out tonight.

[fairweatherfan]

Marc Stein:

Example of "system" issue where NBA owners/players now agree? Sign-and-trades WILL be allowed in new deal after fears they'd be outlawed. BUT... one sign-and-trade wrinkle sides still negotiating is whether teams over luxury tax will be allowed to partake in S-and-T deals.

I'm actually not a fan of the sign-and-trade, but at this late date I'm fine with any compromise that brings us closer to an NBA season.

Yeah, I'd love to see sign-and-trades gone or at least Bird Rights sign-and-trades.  But any system sounds absolutely peachy right now.

PS we're bringing "peachy" back, pass it on.

[dmny5000]

@KBergCBS
Team execs I've spoken with optimistic for deal by Monday, but cautious. One says gut tells him "this will blow up one more time."

I like where things are looking even if it blows up one last time - hell we would be so close with just the BRI left it would fall through eventually most likely.

I'm not too worried about them agreeing on the BRI, it's the luxury tax/hard cap issue that still worries me. Hopefully they can work that one out tonight.

I agree, I think the salary cap issues are the most important part right now. The players just wont agree to the most recent luxury tax proposal for obvious reasons. I think that's what may stall talks this time.

BRI will be agreed upon if all other issues are worked out.

[j804]

Let's hope KG doesn't come storming into the meeting rofl

[dmny5000]

Let's hope KG doesn't come storming into the meeting rofl

Haha or Paul Allen.

[Roy H.]

Chris Broussard: Owners/players broke for dinner after 6 more hours of system talk. Next round of talks will center on BRI. Players intent on staying at 52%

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c2BcifSi

[dmny5000]

Chris Broussard: Owners/players broke for dinner after 6 more hours of system talk. Next round of talks will center on BRI. Players intent on staying at 52%

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1c2BcifSi

I was just about to post that, this is where it starts to get interesting. Sounds like it's gonna be another very late night of negotiations.