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Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2011, 06:37:16 PM »

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  I'm not convicting Perk of anything.  I just think that this idea that Perkins is completely opposite off the court compared to the guy we see on the court might be a bit of a media creation.  I'm not saying he is a criminal or a thug, only that chances are he also isn't the lamb off the court that some of you seem to think he is.  He has shown a mean streak on the court and that is something most people cannot turn on and off by putting on a uniform.

People on these boards are just too obsessed over this guy he can do no wrong.

Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2011, 11:14:29 PM »

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when one of your best mates is stephen jackson then you know perk loves a little rumble.
Hard to tell if he's a barker or a biter on the court. He's always been tough and loves physical play.
Probably just drunk and a few try hards thought they'd be the man on the street and start a big bad NBA player.

ps. you know Jackson wasn't there because no one was shot. He don't take Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. from NO ONE!
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Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2011, 11:23:36 PM »

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when one of your best mates is stephen jackson then you know perk loves a little rumble.
Hard to tell if he's a barker or a biter on the court. He's always been tough and loves physical play.
Probably just drunk and a few try hards thought they'd be the man on the street and start a big bad NBA player.

ps. you know Jackson wasn't there because no one was shot. He don't take **** from NO ONE!






Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2011, 03:15:58 AM »

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Why do people try to pigeon-hole people off of individual actions? People are complex. Perk seems like a nice guy with anger issues. By nice, I mean he has compassion for others and is loyal to the people he cares about. Someone with those positive traits could also be an idiot when drunk. Everyone has flaws.

Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2011, 07:23:19 AM »

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  I'm not convicting Perk of anything.  I just think that this idea that Perkins is completely opposite off the court compared to the guy we see on the court might be a bit of a media creation.  I'm not saying he is a criminal or a thug, only that chances are he also isn't the lamb off the court that some of you seem to think he is.  He has shown a mean streak on the court and that is something most people cannot turn on and off by putting on a uniform.

Look through the posts here.  Almost everyone is simply assuming that Perkins is guilty.  And I think you are exaggerating the Perkins-is-a-Lamb view.  I've not seen that, that I recall.  What I've seen is acknowledgement that he is a complex person whose on-court persona is a bit different from how he behaves in everyday life.  I think that can be said about nearly all performers.  Their everyday personality is not the same as their performance persona.  It's more different for different people, or different in different ways.  But an athlete is a performer.  Did anyone seriously think that Perkins goes around in everyday life with a perpetual scowl on his face, getting in everyone's face?  Maybe he does.  But I doubt it.   Most likely his on-court persona is an exaggeration of his actual personality.  Like I said, he's undoubtedly complex, like most people are.

One thing seems clear:  that Perkins had a long, painful and unsettled weekend, with a lot of drinking and poor control over what was going on.  I don't doubt that this reflects his turmoil over what has been a long and unsettling year for him.  I think we can actually afford, as fans who presumably are also human beings, to have a bit of compassion for him, no?

But as regards his arrest, I think both his story and the cops' story seem a bit hole-y at this point.  Perkins says that he went to the bar to demand a refund.  Ok.  That could be true.  But, of course, 4 in the morning is not really an ideal time to discuss such business matters.  But the cops seem to be claiming that Perkins was fighting everyone, including the cops.  That seems an exaggeration, doesn't it?  If Perkins was really trying to fight people, there would be some badly hurt people in the hospital, wouldn't there?  Let's get a little real - you could make two ordinary bouncers out of Perkins.  And what's this about him resisting arrest, fighting the cops?  Seriously?  Who gets away with fighting cops, that isn't mafia connected, politically connected (same thing, of course), or at least a billionaire?  If Perkins did any part of what the cops are saying he did, he'd be facing a lot more than a misdemeanor.

What looks most likely to me is that the actual truth is somewhere in between what Perkins says and what the cops say.  Isn't that often where the truth lies?   Probably Perkins was behaving in an aggressive and intimidating manner, probably because he was drunk, and probably the cops made it out to be a lot more than that.  The bottom line, if you ask me, is that it sounds like Perkins needs some counseling and needs to quit drinking, if he's a drinker.
What I see here is that old classic - the Cry For Help.  I hope that the justice system where all this happened is enlightened enough to see that.

Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2011, 07:58:16 AM »

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  Would you have the same compassion if it were Kobe Bryant or LeBron James rather then a former Celtic fan favorite?  Probably not.

  I admit I don't have much compassion for athletes who get into trouble involving alcohol and nightclubs because I spent 10 years working in nightclubs in south Florida during the 90's.  I saw first hand how they tend to behave in these VIP rooms especially set up for them to misbehave beyond the eyes of the general public.  I've seen them doing things that would probably shock a whole lot of fans of these athletes.  I've witnessed them harassing women, fighting and even doing drugs.    
  
I'm not saying he is one of those kind of guys but I'm also not dismissing the possibility that he is just like a whole lot of other professional athletes/celebrities who believe they are above the law just because he is a former Celtic fan favorite.

  
I have seen first hand that these athletes and celebrities get away with more then the average person does in these clubs because they spend way more money there so the ownership is less likely to involved the police unless the situation is totally out of control.  That's just the way it is.  I believe that if the police were called it is indeed because Perkins and or the situation was completely out of control.  These clubs have multiple bouncers that are 6'5"+ and solid muscle so if they cannot control the situation to the point where the police become involved it is usually really bad.  They don't just call the cops for nothing because the ownership doesn't want the cops there for obvious reasons, like too many police related incidences can result in them losing their liquor licence.  Due to this in most cases when you hear the cops were involved the situation was way out of control and probably worse then what is being reported not an exaggeration of what really happened as you suggest.
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Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2011, 08:29:58 AM »

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I bet he isn't a happy camper being traded.  Sure he got paid but he spent years here and was good friends with Rondo.  Big guys can take it out on others when they are angry.   They will get arrested and pay their dues but I bet the lad was drowning his sorrows, got mad at the world and lost it.   I've been a bartemder and I've seen it.

Of course this is only speculation and wild speculation at that.   But one does not get that plastered when one is happy usually.  While he could have overdid and we all do that from time to time.  Alcohol can bring out your true side, which is oft ugly, and he is an aggressive dude.

It's not hard to fight.  In fact, it's very easy.  Insert fist into face, etc.   I am always skeptical when they say a guy is trying to fight everyone.   It would take 3-4 men easily to hold Perk back if he was going at people to fight and I would say that it would more likely take 5-6.   Again, I am speaking from some experience as I have been a bouncer.  So I am skeptical that he was trying to fight eveyone.

Perk isn't a natural fighter from what I seen in these games.  Most NBA ballers are posturizers and little more.   While, a few can really fight (Kermit Washington comes of mind and Barkley) a lot of them flail punch with does little damage and less damage than a straight punch.  They are big and strong and could hurt you with virtue of that alone but they are largely unskilled fighters.   Fighting is a skill and some people are good at it and others best leave it alone.  I fought often when I was in the service and I have fought in a Army Basketball game.   

I fought a flailer once who thought he was bad.  He kept punching me in the kidney while I was posting up.  I told him twice he best stop it but he just grinned at me.   He persisted and I nailed in his jaw and swelled up his left side of his face.   There was no need to hold him back and the fight was over with one punch.   I didn't knock him out but he was a dazed little puppy and went over to the bench and he was crying from the pain.  He was a big dude about 6'5" and 270 lbs.  I was taller about two inches and weighed about 250 lbs.   He didn't really want a piece of me afterall and once I called his action's bluff it was over. Most NBA guys are like that they don't know how to punch.    I can't stand to be punched in the kidney, a nipple twister or have my ears boxed.   If guys did this horsing around I was livid. 

I think he got wasted and menaced some people. No way could peeps hold him back if he impulsively went after some people.

Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2011, 10:28:08 AM »

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People on these boards are just too obsessed over this guy he can do no wrong.

Nah, we're just happy to have a non-lockout, non-stupid, unrealistic trade idea thread.
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Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2011, 10:47:14 AM »

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Instead of admitting he's an idiot for doing what he did the celtics blog turns into a psychology forum about perks deep seeded emotional complexities. My eyes just rolled out of my head.


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Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2011, 11:36:52 AM »

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Perk got overly drunk and public and acted tough?  Sounds like 85% of the under-30s males that I know.

Still, Perk has a lot riding on keeping his cool, and he needs to be smarter.


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Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2011, 11:58:04 AM »

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  This is probably the worst off-court incident I can recall involving Perk and he's been in the league for 8 years. I doubt it's a sign of anything bad.

Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2011, 12:08:09 PM »

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As far as players in off the court news, this is one of the most minor.  Perk wants to fight on the court too, it's nothing new for him.  And he didn't drink and drive, which is the most important thing.  Or drink and pull a gun for that matter.

It's an error in judgement, and not good for p.r., but my opinion of Perk is still just as high as it was before the incident.

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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2011, 12:09:55 PM »

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Perk seems to be an angry drunk. It would probably be best if he avoids drinking that much in the future. I know some people who have to control their drinking since they get very angry when they get drunk.

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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2011, 12:19:30 PM »

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ah gotta love nights like that lol

Re: Kendrick Perkins allegedly involved in drunken nightclub outburst.
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2011, 05:48:47 PM »

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I want to see Perk play basketball drunk.  And get T'd up.  Maybe by Bill Kennedy.  Just to see what happens.
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