blockbuster pacers/celtics trade idea

[Bahku]

Nope ... they're definitely on the winning end of this trade acquiring Rondo ... he's worth way more than this, and there's only about two PG's I'd consider replacing him with, (and even then with reservations).

[gpap]

i don't like it because collison only thrived in an up-tempo offense in NOH.  He will not mix well with our big 3 as Rondo has.  I also honestly don't think any blockbuster trade right now will be any good if we are to contend again with the same core because of chemistry issues.  These guys know each other so well and Doc's plays well too so that execution should be second nature.  That's something you just CAN"T trade for!

Actually, you can. Ainge traded Perkins halfway through the season last year and it didn't seem like chemistry played much of a role in his decision.

Also, I think this chemistry stuff is blown completely out of proportion. At the end of the day, it's about talent. Who has it and who doesn't? Those with talent win titles. Those without talent don't win squat.

Whether a team swaps roses and cookie recipes in the locker room could be a plus, but in the end, it's irrelevant.

[gpap]

I think its an intriguing move if you love Granger.  Unfortunately, I am not sure Granger isn't just Jeff Green playing on a team that lets him shoot with no conscience. 

I've seen Danny Granger play. He's a better player than Green.
Granger is a starter that can score, lights out. Green is a back-up player. I am not sure I'd make this deal because I think a Rondo/Green package and land us more in return.

That said, D. Granger is the best player in this proposed deal (gee, sounds familiar.)

[aporel#18]

I think its an intriguing move if you love Granger.  Unfortunately, I am not sure Granger isn't just Jeff Green playing on a team that lets him shoot with no conscience. 

I've seen Danny Granger play. He's a better player than Green.
Granger is a starter that can score, lights out. Green is a back-up player. I am not sure I'd make this deal because I think a Rondo/Green package and land us more in return.

That said, D. Granger is the best player in this proposed deal (gee, sounds familiar.)

Granger has shown more than Green, but I'm not sure he's so much better than Green. And of course, he wouldn't start on this Celtics team.

And Rondo is the best player on this proposed deal, without a doubt. He can make his teammates better, and haven't DWade injured him, the Celtics would have beaten the Heat. A healthy Rondo is a top 5 player in terms of value for team's success. Granger is going to be surpassed by Paul George very soon as Indy's best player.

[Chris]

I think its an intriguing move if you love Granger.  Unfortunately, I am not sure Granger isn't just Jeff Green playing on a team that lets him shoot with no conscience. 

I've seen Danny Granger play. He's a better player than Green.
Granger is a starter that can score, lights out. Green is a back-up player. I am not sure I'd make this deal because I think a Rondo/Green package and land us more in return.

That said, D. Granger is the best player in this proposed deal (gee, sounds familiar.)

Eh, I think Rondo is a better player than Granger.  I also think Granger is a volume scorer, much like Rudy Gay.  And while that hasn't been asked of Green, I am not sure he couldn't pull off a decent immitation of it.

And the bottom line is, neither of them should be a guy you build your team around.

And I would much rather pay Green $7 million a year to be a part of a team that will still need superstars, than pay Granger $13 million to be a slight upgrade over him.

[paulcowens]

I think it's important to trade our best player.

[paulcowens]

i don't like it because collison only thrived in an up-tempo offense in NOH.  He will not mix well with our big 3 as Rondo has.  I also honestly don't think any blockbuster trade right now will be any good if we are to contend again with the same core because of chemistry issues.  These guys know each other so well and Doc's plays well too so that execution should be second nature.  That's something you just CAN"T trade for!

Actually, you can. Ainge traded Perkins halfway through the season last year and it didn't seem like chemistry played much of a role in his decision.

Also, I think this chemistry stuff is blown completely out of proportion. At the end of the day, it's about talent. Who has it and who doesn't? Those with talent win titles. Those without talent don't win squat.

Whether a team swaps roses and cookie recipes in the locker room could be a plus, but in the end, it's irrelevant.

Chemistry isn't about people liking each other.  It's about cohesion that lifts the whole beyond the sum of the parts.  If what you are saying were true, I don't think the Mavs would have beaten the Heat, would they?

[gpap]

i don't like it because collison only thrived in an up-tempo offense in NOH.  He will not mix well with our big 3 as Rondo has.  I also honestly don't think any blockbuster trade right now will be any good if we are to contend again with the same core because of chemistry issues.  These guys know each other so well and Doc's plays well too so that execution should be second nature.  That's something you just CAN"T trade for!

Actually, you can. Ainge traded Perkins halfway through the season last year and it didn't seem like chemistry played much of a role in his decision.

Also, I think this chemistry stuff is blown completely out of proportion. At the end of the day, it's about talent. Who has it and who doesn't? Those with talent win titles. Those without talent don't win squat.

Whether a team swaps roses and cookie recipes in the locker room could be a plus, but in the end, it's irrelevant.

Chemistry isn't about people liking each other.  It's about cohesion that lifts the whole beyond the sum of the parts.  If what you are saying were true, I don't think the Mavs would have beaten the Heat, would they?

I understand and I wasn't trying to be rude, just kinda sarcastic.

Hmmm....regarding the Heat/Mavs question, I am not so sure that cohesion played the biggest role. It helped, no doubt!!

That said, I think a roster of Dirk, Chandler, Barea, J Kidd, Marion and Stevenson was just as good and had more depth than that of Miami's roster.