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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2011, 07:24:03 PM »

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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2011, 08:08:54 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat.  


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.   

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2011, 10:17:57 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat. 


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.   

And no one in the division has a small forward that can contain Carmelo Anthony, or a defense that can keep up with the speed of the South Beach fast-break. ;)
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2011, 10:21:40 PM »

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Not entirely sure how having an all nba center-- who is now moved to his more natural position-- and a top 5 2 guard means I have no go to guy.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2011, 10:22:49 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat. 


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.   

And no one in the division has a small forward that can contain Carmelo Anthony, or a defense that can keep up with the speed of the South Beach fast-break. ;)

How do you fast break when you can not control the boards and thus, the pace.  4 of my starters average more then 5 rebounds a game.  


And the difference between Granger and Melo is much less then the difference then the advantage my team has just about everywhere else.  



Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2011, 10:26:40 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat. 


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.   

And no one in the division has a small forward that can contain Carmelo Anthony, or a defense that can keep up with the speed of the South Beach fast-break. ;)

How do you fast break when you can not control the boards and thus, the pace.  4 of my starters average more then 5 rebounds a game.  


And the difference between Granger and Melo is much less then the difference then the advantage my team has just about everywhere else.  




Your only clear advantage is Aldridge. I'm taking Lopez over gortat for sure.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2011, 10:33:21 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat. 


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.   

And no one in the division has a small forward that can contain Carmelo Anthony, or a defense that can keep up with the speed of the South Beach fast-break. ;)

How do you fast break when you can not control the boards and thus, the pace.  4 of my starters average more then 5 rebounds a game.  


And the difference between Granger and Melo is much less then the difference then the advantage my team has just about everywhere else.  




Your only clear advantage is Aldridge. I'm taking Lopez over gortat for sure.

Hardly.

As a starting C, Gortat averaged only 6 less points, 4.9 more rebounds, .2 less blocks, and shot a higher % (55.8 to 49.2)

And he is a better defender. 

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2011, 10:38:22 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat.  


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.  

And no one in the division has a small forward that can contain Carmelo Anthony, or a defense that can keep up with the speed of the South Beach fast-break. ;)

How do you fast break when you can not control the boards and thus, the pace.  4 of my starters average more then 5 rebounds a game.  


And the difference between Granger and Melo is much less then the difference then the advantage my team has just about everywhere else.  




Three of my starters average more than six rebounds a game, (6.0, 7.3, 8.7), one of my bench more than seven, and another more than ten.

My five starters and first complete rotation are also an average size of 6-8, 219 pounds. And when Melo gets it going, no one can stop him effectively.
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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2011, 10:43:39 PM »

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My Eastern Standings are:

1) Pacers
2) Phily
3) NY
4) Bulls
5) Nets
6) Miami
7) Washington
8) Orlando
9) Detroit - More talent then Boston but no consistent game changer
10) Boston - No go to guy
11) Milwaukee - No true PG
12) Atlanta - Not enough talent

Orlando
pg: CP3
sg: Jason Richardson
sf: Corey Maggette
pf: Brandon Bass
c: JaVale McGee

Miami
C  - B Lopez
PF - JJ Hickson
SF - C Anthony
SG - E Turner
PG - D Harris

Washington
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat. 


These are the three teams I really see competing for the 6th, 7th, and 8th spots in the East.

My reasoning is that Orlando has the best PG and SG of the three but the worst SF, PF, and C of the three. CP3 gives them the edge though to get into the playoffs. Washington I see having the Worst PG and SG of the three, having the second best SF and C, and best PF of the 3. I think Miami has the second best PG, SG, and PF of the three, as well as the best SF and C of the these three. I am a fan of Karl as coach also. I think this order could be changed but I like these teams more then the four I left out. It was hard to leave out Detroit but when I see how they match up with Miami, Washington, and Orlando I just don't think they have enough. I like Horford but I don't think he can be the best player on a playoff team. I think Milwaukee will have chemistry woes with all those scorers and no true pg. Atlanta simply lacks talent.

Bullets have the best bench
The best front court.
The best fit of role players.


And no one else in the division has a PF tall enough and good enough to defend the pick and roll between Aldridge and Granger.   

And no one in the division has a small forward that can contain Carmelo Anthony, or a defense that can keep up with the speed of the South Beach fast-break. ;)

How do you fast break when you can not control the boards and thus, the pace.  4 of my starters average more then 5 rebounds a game. 


And the difference between Granger and Melo is much less then the difference then the advantage my team has just about everywhere else. 




Three of my starters average more than six rebounds a game, (6.0, 7.3, 8.7), one of my bench more than seven, and another more than ten.

My five starters and first complete rotation are also an average height of 6-8, 219 pounds. And when Melo gets it going, no one can stop him effectively.


Who on your bench averaged 10 rebounds a game in the NBA last year?



And how are you going to get Melo going on defense? 


My starters rebounding: 10.9, 8.8, 5.4, and 6.4

off the bench:  5.5 (in 22 minutes a game)



My bench destroys your bench in terms of NBA experience and actual NBA production.  Name one recent successful NBA team with that many rookies?

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2011, 10:44:33 PM »

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Averaging six less points is a lot though. The rebounding is pathetic and I hated to see love leave this team due to that, but Lopez was always a top focus of the opposing defense. He was always game planned for. Gortat had it easier in real life. Still head to head I like Lopez more and I think melo gives bahku a slight edge over you.

 I do think it's close but I dont think Felton can stay in front of Harris and is worth nothing on defense. In Charlotte he was destroyed by jameer Nelson in the playoffs and he was never asked to play defense in ny.

Again I think bahku has a slight edge, but a solid argument complimented by evidence could make me change my mind especially if bahku doesnt respond.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2011, 10:49:08 PM »

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Averaging six less points is a lot though. The rebounding is pathetic and I hated to see love leave this team due to that, but Lopez was always a top focus of the opposing defense. He was always game planned for. Gortat had it easier in real life. Still head to head I like Lopez more and I think melo gives bahku a slight edge over you.

 I do think it's close but I dont think Felton can stay in front of Harris and is worth nothing on defense. In Charlotte he was destroyed by jameer Nelson in the playoffs and he was never asked to play defense in ny.

Again I think bahku has a slight edge, but a solid argument complimented by evidence could make me change my mind especially if bahku doesnt respond.


Felton is a good defender at PG.  Those Charlotte teams made the playoffs off good defense at all positions. 


Harris plays no defense.  Him and Lopez were the two cornerstones of a team that was on it's way to be historically bad.  Why should we now believe they are the cornerstones of a playoff team loaded with rookies?  Aren't these the guys Melo didn't want to join?

For all this talk of "stopping Melo", the Heat can't stop anyone. 

The Bullets have more weapons.  More experience depth.  Better rebounding.  Better defenders. 

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2011, 10:59:57 PM »

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loking things over with the rest of the league, I have to say this might be the weakest division in the league. My standings for this division

1. Washington - best starting five in the division with decent bench
2. Miami- if their bench wasn't sooooooo young and inexperienced they might have had a chance to surprise people if they made the playoffs.

3. Orlando - simply, their front court isn't good enough to warrant putting CP3's Magic ahead of Carmelo's Heat

4. Atlanta - well, it was a good learning experience but you just can not build a team around a defensive minded PG who can pass but not shoot well unless there is other elite talent. There isn't here.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2011, 11:15:52 PM »

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Averaging six less points is a lot though. The rebounding is pathetic and I hated to see love leave this team due to that, but Lopez was always a top focus of the opposing defense. He was always game planned for. Gortat had it easier in real life. Still head to head I like Lopez more and I think melo gives bahku a slight edge over you.

 I do think it's close but I dont think Felton can stay in front of Harris and is worth nothing on defense. In Charlotte he was destroyed by jameer Nelson in the playoffs and he was never asked to play defense in ny.

Again I think bahku has a slight edge, but a solid argument complimented by evidence could make me change my mind especially if bahku doesnt respond.


Felton is a good defender at PG.  Those Charlotte teams made the playoffs off good defense at all positions. 


Harris plays no defense.  Him and Lopez were the two cornerstones of a team that was on it's way to be historically bad.  Why should we now believe they are the cornerstones of a playoff team loaded with rookies?  Aren't these the guys Melo didn't want to join?

For all this talk of "stopping Melo", the Heat can't stop anyone. 

The Bullets have more weapons.  More experience depth.  Better rebounding.  Better defenders. 

Felton was destroyed by Nelson. It was sad but still you make a good point with the nets cornerstone argument and melo not wanting to go there with them. I Have thoughts on this but I want to hear from Miami for a response.

Bahku where you at man? Defend your team.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2011, 11:31:17 PM »

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Averaging six less points is a lot though. The rebounding is pathetic and I hated to see love leave this team due to that, but Lopez was always a top focus of the opposing defense. He was always game planned for. Gortat had it easier in real life. Still head to head I like Lopez more and I think melo gives bahku a slight edge over you.

 I do think it's close but I dont think Felton can stay in front of Harris and is worth nothing on defense. In Charlotte he was destroyed by jameer Nelson in the playoffs and he was never asked to play defense in ny.

Again I think bahku has a slight edge, but a solid argument complimented by evidence could make me change my mind especially if bahku doesnt respond.


Felton is a good defender at PG.  Those Charlotte teams made the playoffs off good defense at all positions. 


Harris plays no defense.  Him and Lopez were the two cornerstones of a team that was on it's way to be historically bad.  Why should we now believe they are the cornerstones of a playoff team loaded with rookies?  Aren't these the guys Melo didn't want to join?

For all this talk of "stopping Melo", the Heat can't stop anyone. 

The Bullets have more weapons.  More experience depth.  Better rebounding.  Better defenders. 

Felton was destroyed by Nelson. It was sad but still you make a good point with the nets cornerstone argument and melo not wanting to go there with them. I Have thoughts on this but I want to hear from Miami for a response.

Bahku where you at man? Defend your team.


Nelson was an all-star PG.  He put up 32 twice against Felton when 9-17 from downtown. (shots created by Howard)  He also put up 23 and 24 against Rondo that year in the playoffs.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Southeast Divison Press Conferences
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2011, 12:26:01 AM »

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Averaging six less points is a lot though. The rebounding is pathetic and I hated to see love leave this team due to that, but Lopez was always a top focus of the opposing defense. He was always game planned for. Gortat had it easier in real life. Still head to head I like Lopez more and I think melo gives bahku a slight edge over you.

 I do think it's close but I dont think Felton can stay in front of Harris and is worth nothing on defense. In Charlotte he was destroyed by jameer Nelson in the playoffs and he was never asked to play defense in ny.

Again I think bahku has a slight edge, but a solid argument complimented by evidence could make me change my mind especially if bahku doesnt respond.


Felton is a good defender at PG.  Those Charlotte teams made the playoffs off good defense at all positions. 


Harris plays no defense.  Him and Lopez were the two cornerstones of a team that was on it's way to be historically bad.  Why should we now believe they are the cornerstones of a playoff team loaded with rookies?  Aren't these the guys Melo didn't want to join?

For all this talk of "stopping Melo", the Heat can't stop anyone. 

The Bullets have more weapons.  More experience depth.  Better rebounding.  Better defenders. 

You're certainly entitled to your views ... TP and thanks for your opinion.
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