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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #915 on: July 12, 2011, 04:13:37 PM »

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"Most PFs" can guard 7 foot tall PF's who can shoot 3 pointers extremely well with a high release point?  I'd say less than 5 can.
There are other tall guys who can shoot threes while giving you nothing else. He's not a game changing offensive player.

He'll be effective at spacing the floor with Dwight, but its a wasted pick.

Andrea is far more than just a tall guy who can shoot 3's and give you nothing else.  He scored 21.4 ppg last season on just 1.2 3ptm per game.  I'm not going to waste too much of my energy defending somebody else's selection of Bargs, so I'll end my part of this discussion with saying that he is a very good, versatile scoring machine and will be very good alongside Dwight when drawing a team's second best defensive big.  He should easily go off for 30 against teams that have a single defensive liability at the 4/5 along with Dwight getting his usual numbers.  I like it, Berk. 

I think your team (Dwight and Bargs) up against our team (Gasol and Z-Bo) would be an absolute blast to watch.  Both combos would shoot over 60% fg haha.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #916 on: July 12, 2011, 04:15:16 PM »

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Bargnani will be a post up threat against undersized fours.

Other than that, his shot-creation abilities will take a hit by switching to the four ... but that doesn't matter a whole pile because he is a weak shot-creator to begin with.

A.Bargnani relies heavily on his teammates to create quality shot attempts for him. He needs teammates who can attract defensive attention and find him for open looks. Dwight Howard will be very good at that + they should be able to add some dribble penetration to further help Bargnani.

Defensively, Bargnani will be a victim against anyone with average to above average quickness at his position. Against slow PFs or PFs with limited offensive range, he'll be an effective individual defender. He'll also be a consistently abysmal help defender + his inability to defend his position adequately will lead to an increased number of situations where Dwight Howard can find himself in foul trouble.

Plus, his rebounding will decline. Further from the bucket. Doesn't explode to the ball. Incapable of boxing out most PFs because he doesn't have enough quickness, agility or commitment to do so.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #917 on: July 12, 2011, 04:18:29 PM »

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Gerald Wallace was an excellent, excellent pick.

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« Reply #918 on: July 12, 2011, 04:18:34 PM »

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Plus, his rebounding will decline. Further from the bucket. Doesn't explode to the ball. Incapable of boxing out most PFs because he doesn't have enough quickness, agility or commitment to do so.
A PF with a worse rebound rate than 8.6, that would be impressive.

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« Reply #919 on: July 12, 2011, 04:19:54 PM »

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I like the Bargnani pick. He's like a poor man's Dirk and is still pretty young. Bigs usually go quick so you have to take the talented ones as soon as you can.

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« Reply #920 on: July 12, 2011, 04:39:30 PM »

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I've think every guy picked this round can be defended as a second rounder, with the only guy I thought was a real reach being Bargnani (and even he is an excellent scorer).


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« Reply #921 on: July 12, 2011, 04:42:40 PM »

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« Reply #922 on: July 12, 2011, 04:44:25 PM »

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« Reply #923 on: July 12, 2011, 04:44:54 PM »

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Did I miss Riah's pick again?

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« Reply #924 on: July 12, 2011, 04:46:21 PM »

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I've think every guy picked this round can be defended as a second rounder, with the only guy I thought was a real reach being Bargnani (and even he is an excellent scorer).

Yup, another good round of drafting.  Boooooooring!
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« Reply #925 on: July 12, 2011, 04:48:15 PM »

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I've think every guy picked this round can be defended as a second rounder, with the only guy I thought was a real reach being Bargnani (and even he is an excellent scorer).

I thought there was another yuge reach this round.

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« Reply #926 on: July 12, 2011, 04:48:26 PM »

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I've think every guy picked this round can be defended as a second rounder, with the only guy I thought was a real reach being Bargnani (and even he is an excellent scorer).

Question is: Who has the best duo? I know some people have three players also. That trio can be compared to the duos, but the potential of who the third guy could be for teams with two players should be considered.

I am being honest when I am not sure who I would pick.

I guess I would take LeBron and Tyson as of now.

I do like the potential the potential of the Warriors though. I think the Warriors were the biggest winner of Day 2. But that's based on potential right now. Need to bring it in Round 3.


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« Reply #927 on: July 12, 2011, 04:48:51 PM »

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I think KWhit might get a player gift wrapped to him at 3.1 tomorrow

It sucks missing out on the drafting as it's happening, because I miss out who the great players in free fall are.


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« Reply #928 on: July 12, 2011, 04:52:07 PM »

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Question is: Who has the best duo?
(1) LeBron + Tyson
(2) Nash + Kobe

Are the two that stand out to me.

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« Reply #929 on: July 12, 2011, 04:52:13 PM »

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I've think every guy picked this round can be defended as a second rounder, with the only guy I thought was a real reach being Bargnani (and even he is an excellent scorer).

I thought there was another yuge reach this round.

Reach for the second, or reach for when they were taken in the second?

I can see some people criticizing either the Ray Allen or Tyson Chandler picks, but both bring elite skills to the table. 


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