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Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2011, 05:49:42 PM »

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Doc said the other day that Bradley was ready to play NBA defense the moment he was drafted.  Just based on that fact alone, along with the fact that Miami is the biggest threat to the C's long term, make Bradley a must-keep.

My guess is that they believe he will be ready to take over behind Rondo and Ray next year.  Can't wait to see the Rondo-Bradley-Green-JJ-KG lineup on the floor!

Is it just me or is that a really underwhelming lineup?

Rondo-KG are excellent, Green is solid, JJ's likely to be below-average as an NBA player in his rookie season (most rookies are) and Bradley was one of the worst players in the league last year, if not the worst.   When you average it out, it looks like just plain whelming.
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Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2011, 03:38:35 AM »

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with picking up Bradley's option for 12-13 and Johnson having the first two years guaranteed we'll have 4 players under contract Pierce,Rondo,Bradley,Johnson and our payroll would reach $30,384,045.

If we get the Clippers lottopick at 11 that's an additional $1,827,400 and if our 1st at 25 that would be $954,000 and our 2nd rnd pick is probably $473,604, which means our payroll is $33639049 for 7 players, and if we got Howard for 15 mill that would be $48639049. And if we picked up Moore's option it would come up to $49401244 if i'm not mistaken, and let's say the cap is $62M we would have $12598756 to spend on resigning KG and Ray plus a few other players.

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2011, 06:25:21 AM »

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with picking up Bradley's option for 12-13 and Johnson having the first two years guaranteed we'll have 4 players under contract Pierce,Rondo,Bradley,Johnson and our payroll would reach $30,384,045.

If we get the Clippers lottopick at 11 that's an additional $1,827,400 and if our 1st at 25 that would be $954,000 and our 2nd rnd pick is probably $473,604, which means our payroll is $33639049 for 7 players, and if we got Howard for 15 mill that would be $48639049. And if we picked up Moore's option it would come up to $49401244 if i'm not mistaken, and let's say the cap is $62M we would have $12598756 to spend on resigning KG and Ray plus a few other players.

Nice job putting the figures together. 
About KG and Ray, just keep in mind that they would be unrestricted FAs, free to sign anywhere else, since the Cs would have renounced rights to them in order to have enough money to sign Howard.
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Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2011, 07:02:08 AM »

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with picking up Bradley's option for 12-13 and Johnson having the first two years guaranteed we'll have 4 players under contract Pierce,Rondo,Bradley,Johnson and our payroll would reach $30,384,045.

If we get the Clippers lottopick at 11 that's an additional $1,827,400 and if our 1st at 25 that would be $954,000 and our 2nd rnd pick is probably $473,604, which means our payroll is $33639049 for 7 players, and if we got Howard for 15 mill that would be $48639049. And if we picked up Moore's option it would come up to $49401244 if i'm not mistaken, and let's say the cap is $62M we would have $12598756 to spend on resigning KG and Ray plus a few other players.

Nice job putting the figures together. 
About KG and Ray, just keep in mind that they would be unrestricted FAs, free to sign anywhere else, since the Cs would have renounced rights to them in order to have enough money to sign Howard.

Yes, good work.  I wonder if they'll end up going multi-year on Green, however, in which case I'd expect he'd get at least a third of that remaining $12M.

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2011, 07:36:34 AM »

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with picking up Bradley's option for 12-13 and Johnson having the first two years guaranteed we'll have 4 players under contract Pierce,Rondo,Bradley,Johnson and our payroll would reach $30,384,045.

If we get the Clippers lottopick at 11 that's an additional $1,827,400 and if our 1st at 25 that would be $954,000 and our 2nd rnd pick is probably $473,604, which means our payroll is $33639049 for 7 players, and if we got Howard for 15 mill that would be $48639049. And if we picked up Moore's option it would come up to $49401244 if i'm not mistaken, and let's say the cap is $62M we would have $12598756 to spend on resigning KG and Ray plus a few other players.

Nice job putting the figures together. 
About KG and Ray, just keep in mind that they would be unrestricted FAs, free to sign anywhere else, since the Cs would have renounced rights to them in order to have enough money to sign Howard.

Yes, good work.  I wonder if they'll end up going multi-year on Green, however, in which case I'd expect he'd get at least a third of that remaining $12M.
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Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2011, 07:46:49 AM »

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Management and the coaching staff are really high on this kid. I saw a bunch of his games at Texas while watching Damion James who I wanted the C's to take. This kid has enormous potential.

We my not have seen it but my guess is Doc and Danny saw a ton of progress during the year in practice and in his Red Claws game and see what he's doing this off season.

I think a lot of people are going to eat their words when he comes out and shows the type of player he can be.

He is a shut down defender and possesses a very, very good mid range jumper. By 2012-13, he will be a key future cog and major contributor to this team.


I hope to God I eat my words on how good he will be. But I will not eat all the jokes about him being a top 5 pick in this draft.

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2011, 08:55:21 AM »

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Management and the coaching staff are really high on this kid. I saw a bunch of his games at Texas while watching Damion James who I wanted the C's to take. This kid has enormous potential.

We my not have seen it but my guess is Doc and Danny saw a ton of progress during the year in practice and in his Red Claws game and see what he's doing this off season.

I think a lot of people are going to eat their words when he comes out and shows the type of player he can be.

He is a shut down defender and possesses a very, very good mid range jumper. By 2012-13, he will be a key future cog and major contributor to this team.


I hope to God I eat my words on how good he will be. But I will not eat all the jokes about him being a top 5 pick in this draft.

Im in the EJ camp on this one...

I understand potential, but he also has ptential at Texas and was fairly lackluster there.

Eventually you have to start making progress and improving your game. He HAS to become a better ball handler if he wants to sniff a rotation for a playoff caliber team.

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2011, 08:58:45 AM »

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Doc said the other day that Bradley was ready to play NBA defense the moment he was drafted.  Just based on that fact alone, along with the fact that Miami is the biggest threat to the C's long term, make Bradley a must-keep.

My guess is that they believe he will be ready to take over behind Rondo and Ray next year.  Can't wait to see the Rondo-Bradley-Green-JJ-KG lineup on the floor!
If you're talking about vs. Miami in the playoffs, you can't really play better defense on Dwayne Wade than Delonte West did.  In that series he was about as aggressive as you can be, and put a lot of energy into denying him the ball.

Even overall Delonte isn't that much worse of a defender than Bradley.  Add in his offensive game and there's no reason Avery should play any backup guard minutes over Delonte West.  He's a bigger "must-keep."

I cant really argue with this. However it is just difficult to rely on Delonte year to year, month to month, and even game to game.

He definitely showed up defensively in the playoffs though...

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2011, 11:54:26 AM »

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Management and the coaching staff are really high on this kid. I saw a bunch of his games at Texas while watching Damion James who I wanted the C's to take. This kid has enormous potential.

We my not have seen it but my guess is Doc and Danny saw a ton of progress during the year in practice and in his Red Claws game and see what he's doing this off season.

I think a lot of people are going to eat their words when he comes out and shows the type of player he can be.

He is a shut down defender and possesses a very, very good mid range jumper. By 2012-13, he will be a key future cog and major contributor to this team.


I hope to God I eat my words on how good he will be. But I will not eat all the jokes about him being a top 5 pick in this draft.

Im in the EJ camp on this one...

I understand potential, but he also has ptential at Texas and was fairly lackluster there.

Eventually you have to start making progress and improving your game. He HAS to become a better ball handler if he wants to sniff a rotation for a playoff caliber team.
I wouldn't say his performance at Texas was lackluster due to the coach that was handling him. I mean just take a look at the talent that Rick Barnes has had in Texas and then ask yourself, why has this coach only had 1 Final Four appearance in 13 years at Texas?

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Barnes is a bad coach and not the greatest developer of talent. The year he had Bradley, Texas had 5 PGs/combo guards on the team and Barnes tried to get every single one of them decent playing time.

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2011, 02:45:06 PM »

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I jusr have a feeling that if there's a season next year he's gonna breakout..he has all the skills to be a good nba player. Ability to get to the rim a nice jumper and can be an athletic scrappy lockdown defender something we need to stop wade. He may be best suited playing the 2 and having delonte run plays for him

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2011, 03:38:14 PM »

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with picking up Bradley's option for 12-13 and Johnson having the first two years guaranteed we'll have 4 players under contract Pierce,Rondo,Bradley,Johnson and our payroll would reach $30,384,045.

If we get the Clippers lottopick at 11 that's an additional $1,827,400 and if our 1st at 25 that would be $954,000 and our 2nd rnd pick is probably $473,604, which means our payroll is $33639049 for 7 players, and if we got Howard for 15 mill that would be $48639049. And if we picked up Moore's option it would come up to $49401244 if i'm not mistaken, and let's say the cap is $62M we would have $12598756 to spend on resigning KG and Ray plus a few other players.

Nice job putting the figures together.  
About KG and Ray, just keep in mind that they would be unrestricted FAs, free to sign anywhere else, since the Cs would have renounced rights to them in order to have enough money to sign Howard.

Yes, good work.  I wonder if they'll end up going multi-year on Green, however, in which case I'd expect he'd get at least a third of that remaining $12M.

$12M plus it looks like the MLE isn't going anywhere. Neither side wants to take that out so Green will take about 5-6M a year. KG and Ray could split the MLE for 2 years then probably retire with Pierce.

PG) Rondo, Bradley
SG) Ray, Moore, Clippers Pick, (maybe?) Gilbert Brown
SF) Pierce, Green, C's 2012 1st rounder
PF) KG, JaJuan, C's 2012 2nd rounder
C) Dwight

I don't know what positions the future picks will be, but Danny will probably start looking for wing players with the big 3 retiring. That leaves 3 roster spots for 6M to fill. 2 spots if we do end up keeping Gilbert Brown around.

Re: Boston Exercises Option On Bradley For 12-13
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2011, 03:48:04 PM »

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Keeping ra and kg for cheap(after signing a big fa) might be the best way to traniition from them to the next era with them taking more of a backseat role. Personally I see ray staying but kg retiring...