Rondo for Steve Nash

[greg_kite]

I think it's settled, this would be a bad long term trade.

If we said Rondo and anyone and everyone else but the Big 3 for Deron Williams I would totally be on board for that.

Automatic title and probably a good shot at landing Dwight Howard.

[JSD]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

[scaryjerry]

lol!

 
 

[Fafnir]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

[JSD]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

[17wasEZ]

I can't believe this topic is still on the front page.

Then why did you just bump it? Also this sort of one-liner gets dangerously close to the sort of things that Roy has made clear aren't okay.

If you don't like a topic being on the latest topics, ignore it and move on. Or post other threads to push it down if you really must.

I didn't see his quote as being bad or out of line. He just seems to be amazed that people are still arguing their points about trading Nash for Rondo for yet another day when it isn't a real offer that is being considered.

For those who would make the deal, don't forget that Nash has a bad back and will more than likely be another injured veteran we're praying for to be healthy for the playoffs.

[Fafnir]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

True but I think Rondo has more value than Pierce, why not keep him and rebuild with him as your best player?

He's only 25 and isn't expensive for his talent level by any means. Besides couldn't we move him after this year and get all young assets and picks instead of Nash?

[JSD]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

True but I think Rondo has more value than Pierce, why not keep him and rebuild with him as your best player?

He's only 25 and isn't expensive for his talent level by any means. Besides couldn't we move him after this year and get all young assets and picks instead of Nash?

I like Nash's game better. He can shoot. We won't have to bench him during critical moments of playoff games because of sagging defenders. He stays home on defense. Basically we get better for one season and then have a clear fresh start afterward. I agree the perception is that Rondo's a borderline superstar player. So Lopez and maybe a pick should be included.

[Fafnir]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

True but I think Rondo has more value than Pierce, why not keep him and rebuild with him as your best player?

He's only 25 and isn't expensive for his talent level by any means. Besides couldn't we move him after this year and get all young assets and picks instead of Nash?

I like Nash's game better. He can shoot. We won't have to bench him during critical moments of playoff games because of sagging defenders. He stays home on defense. Basically we get better for one season and then have a clear fresh start afterward. I agree the perception is that Rondo's a borderline superstar player. So Lopez and maybe a pick should be included.

He's always been an over eager helper in my book.

I just don't think he'd be an upgrade for next year at his age, plus I think we can get better packages for Rondo from a rebuilding perspective than Robin Lopez and a pick.

[JSD]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

True but I think Rondo has more value than Pierce, why not keep him and rebuild with him as your best player?

He's only 25 and isn't expensive for his talent level by any means. Besides couldn't we move him after this year and get all young assets and picks instead of Nash?

I like Nash's game better. He can shoot. We won't have to bench him during critical moments of playoff games because of sagging defenders. He stays home on defense. Basically we get better for one season and then have a clear fresh start afterward. I agree the perception is that Rondo's a borderline superstar player. So Lopez and maybe a pick should be included.

He's always been an over eager helper in my book.

I just don't think he'd be an upgrade for next year at his age, plus I think we can get better packages for Rondo from a rebuilding perspective than Robin Lopez and a pick.

That's where we disagree. To me this isn't just about rebuilding, it's a potential upgrade for next season too.

[soap07]

  I think that CP3 is the best pg in the league. Getting him would make the Celts somewhat but not terrifically better. Other point guards are better individual talents but don't necessarily have more of a positive impact on a team, especially if you consider how Rondo was playing before he was injured this year. Stick in Nash, you lose defense and rebounding. You gain outside shooting but leave opponents without a big need to protect the paint. Add Rose and you gain scoring but lose passing and running the offense, plus some defense and rebounding. (clearly you lose less defense with Rose than Nash). We'd be better in the long run with Rose but we won't be getting him. Westbrook doesn't really make us better and I'm less of a fan of Williams than many here.

Okay, so from your post, I garner that the team would be better off with CP3 and Rose. Nash and Westbrook are washes when compared to Rondo and that Deron probably falls into that tier.

I'll take it. We'll agree to disagree on Deron, but fine, the rest is reasonable.

[paulcowens]

Wow, the Bird in the Bush game just goes on and on and on and on and on and on.  It's all so insane.  I wonder if every fandom in the league is hellbent on trading their best player?

[BballTim]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

True but I think Rondo has more value than Pierce, why not keep him and rebuild with him as your best player?

He's only 25 and isn't expensive for his talent level by any means. Besides couldn't we move him after this year and get all young assets and picks instead of Nash?

I like Nash's game better. He can shoot. We won't have to bench him during critical moments of playoff games because of sagging defenders. He stays home on defense. Basically we get better for one season and then have a clear fresh start afterward. I agree the perception is that Rondo's a borderline superstar player. So Lopez and maybe a pick should be included.

  Switch Rondo for Nash and the difference in athleticism between our team some of our playoff opponents will be shocking.

[Finkelskyhook]

If they want to create cap space it'd be better to dump Pierce's salary. They'd be able to find a taker. Better to trade Rondo for future picks.

I would agree if it wasn't for the sentimental value Pierce carries as a Celtic. He was drafted by the Celtics and has been here his whole career. He should retire a Celtic.

If you're trading Rondo for cap space I don't think we should be sentimental about Pierce, he'd be the only asset we had and would likely want out anyways.

There would be more than cap space involved in that trade.

True but I think Rondo has more value than Pierce, why not keep him and rebuild with him as your best player?

He's only 25 and isn't expensive for his talent level by any means. Besides couldn't we move him after this year and get all young assets and picks instead of Nash?

I like Nash's game better. He can shoot. We won't have to bench him during critical moments of playoff games because of sagging defenders. He stays home on defense. Basically we get better for one season and then have a clear fresh start afterward. I agree the perception is that Rondo's a borderline superstar player. So Lopez and maybe a pick should be included.

He's always been an over eager helper in my book.

I just don't think he'd be an upgrade for next year at his age, plus I think we can get better packages for Rondo from a rebuilding perspective than Robin Lopez and a pick.

That's where we disagree. To me this isn't just about rebuilding, it's a potential upgrade for next season too.

In what way?  We wouldn't have to bench Los Nash for critical offensive possessions...But with his stalwart defense we'd be less likely to see those critical situations..Particularly late season...With exhausted veterans trying to cover for Los Nash the whole freaking 30+ minutes that he's standing stationary "at home" defensively. 

[BballTim]

  I think that CP3 is the best pg in the league. Getting him would make the Celts somewhat but not terrifically better. Other point guards are better individual talents but don't necessarily have more of a positive impact on a team, especially if you consider how Rondo was playing before he was injured this year. Stick in Nash, you lose defense and rebounding. You gain outside shooting but leave opponents without a big need to protect the paint. Add Rose and you gain scoring but lose passing and running the offense, plus some defense and rebounding. (clearly you lose less defense with Rose than Nash). We'd be better in the long run with Rose but we won't be getting him. Westbrook doesn't really make us better and I'm less of a fan of Williams than many here.

Okay, so from your post, I garner that the team would be better off with CP3 and Rose. Nash and Westbrook are washes when compared to Rondo and that Deron probably falls into that tier.

I'll take it. We'll agree to disagree on Deron, but fine, the rest is reasonable.

  Williams might be a wash but I doubt it. Nash and Westbrook make us worse.