Convince Me That Another Team Wants Glen Davis

[barefacedmonk]

Convince Me That Another Team Wants Glen Davis

[jc3celticsphan]

Maybe I am in the minority here with Roy and a few others but I think Baby is a very good rotational bench player who will have the opportunity to sign a 3 year $10-$12 million contract with someone(contract would probably have provisions regarding weight).

My guess as to who is Portland.

Right now Portland still considers themselves a playoff contender, especially if they can get a decently healthy season out of Brandon Roy. They currently have signed to guaranteed contracts the following players in their front court:

Marcus Camby and LaMarcus Aldridge and......that's it.

Yes they have non-guaranteed contracts for Earl Barron and Chris Johnson but we all know Portland will not be looking to be giving them playoff minutes. Portland was hot after Kenneth Faried in the draft, an undersized energy guy at PF that would give them defense and rebounding. If they aren't adverse to drafting an undersized energy guy PF then I have to believe they would have no problem signing one that is proven to be able to score in the NBA, come up big in the playoffs(he has 2 of the last 3 years) and has championship experience.

Baby could play with either Aldridge or Camby in the front court and would fit that team well. Charlotte appears another team that he would fit well with as does Indiana, New Orleans(especially if they lose Carl Landry), and the Clippers(if they don't bring back Craig Smith.

I actually like glen davis. But just seems like the right time for him to leave everything is pointing in that direction.
hes worth 5-7m per. I still think davis can get better and become a complete player. he has bad focus, hes all over the place on what he should be doing on the court

one game hes grabing offensive rebounds and hustling. next game he want to sit mid range all game and try to score he feels like he needs to score but his best asset is his energy. hopefully these "mental excersizes" get him focused because we could use his chemistry and him knowing the system rather then us grabing another PF.

[KGs Knee]

For all of Baby's warts, and he has numerous, he is a useful player when focused and aware of what his role really is.  He has had plenty of moments where he has contributed significantly to the C's success.

His problems seem to be primarily between the ears.  If he can get his mind right, and he seems to maybe recognize this (he is apparently seeing a sports physcologist), he will be ok.

I'm not sure he'll ever grow out of his immature ways, and don't believe he fits with what the C's are trying to do anymore, but, some team out there will have a role for him if he is willing to accept it.

[MBz]

I'm sure it's been said in this thread, I havn't read all of it, but the issue with Davis is the amount of minutes he plays.  Glen Davis playing 15-18 minutes a game and he's effective.  Glen Davis playing 30 minutes a game and his flaws are shown that much more.  Davis is a very good 3rd big, but he needs to be your legit 3rd big.  Though he didn't start this year, he logged more minutes than every big other than KG.  

[LooseCannon]

Maybe I am in the minority here with Roy and a few others but I think Baby is a very good rotational bench player who will have the opportunity to sign a 3 year $10-$12 million contract with someone(contract would probably have provisions regarding weight).

My guess as to who is Portland.

TP for a non-ridiculous scenario, which is all I wanted.  Since Portland is over the cap, if they wanted to preserve the MLE (assuming a CBA not too different from what we have now) or if they wanted to clear roster spots for possible free agents, it seems like the logical S&T would be for Luke Babbitt (a supposed scoring forward who possibly had a worse rookie season, statistically speaking, than Avery Bradley) and one of Armon Johnson, Chris Johnson, or Earl Barron.  That sounds to me like a good first approximation of BBD's trade value in a S&T.

[mgent]

I tend to think in GBBD as a "forced" rotational player in a perennial contener.

Yeah I agree with this.

IP, we MIGHT be able to win a championship with Baby as the 3rd big but that's far from ideal (and that's with a long, rebounding, defending low-post presence).  The Celtics at least have never gone into a season planning to use Baby as the main big off the bench.  He's really on the line of good 4th big/bad 3rd big.

[KGHurtYourFeelings]

When the team(minus Perk) was healthy, Baby was the first big off the bench and a 6th man of the year candidate on arguably the best team in the league

I'm not in love with the guy, and he was pretty bad in the playoffs.

I'd like him back at the right price with the right mentality, but I'm not completely sold.  He does some things well and somethings not so well, but he has continued to show improvement.

Let's keep things in perspective

[manl_lui]

if the wolves want him, i kinda wanna trade with them

somehow i think I we can get one of their starters or good role players for BBD

[Fan from VT]

Many teams would want him, it's not an issue of wanting him, it's an issue of what role he plays at the of another role and how much it costs.

If you are signing him to be a starter, that's a big loss. If signing him has no effect on limiting other signings, and it's cheap, that's a win.

[CoachBo]

Frankly, Davis is worth 3 at 10 to 12 large to the Celtics off the bench.

But only if someone convinces him to drop the Kevin McHale black hole routine and realize that he's not a front-line scorer. I suspect the true explanation for his woes late last year is simple: He was trying to extend his very limited skillset into a big contract.

Massive fail. Davis as a role player = good deal. Davis as a black offensive hole = you can't get him out of town quickly enough.

[Celtics18]

Frankly, Davis is worth 3 at 10 to 12 large to the Celtics off the bench.

But only if someone convinces him to drop the Kevin McHale black hole routine and realize that he's not a front-line scorer. I suspect the true explanation for his woes late last year is simple: He was trying to extend his very limited skillset into a big contract.

Massive fail. Davis as a role player = good deal. Davis as a black offensive hole = you can't get him out of town quickly enough.

It's funny, I remember that Glen's interior passing ability was supposed to be one of his big strengths when he was first coming into the league. 

What's happened to that?  On a team with so many good passers who relish making the extra pass, I wonder how some of this hasn't rubbed off on Davis. 

[CoachBo]

Frankly, Davis is worth 3 at 10 to 12 large to the Celtics off the bench.

But only if someone convinces him to drop the Kevin McHale black hole routine and realize that he's not a front-line scorer. I suspect the true explanation for his woes late last year is simple: He was trying to extend his very limited skillset into a big contract.

Massive fail. Davis as a role player = good deal. Davis as a black offensive hole = you can't get him out of town quickly enough.

It's funny, I remember that Glen's interior passing ability was supposed to be one of his big strengths when he was first coming into the league. 

What's happened to that?  On a team with so many good passers who relish making the extra pass, I wonder how some of this hasn't rubbed off on Davis. 

At this point, I'd settle for A pass - let alone passing as a strength.

It looked to me that he just decided that he had to pad his offensive numbers in a contract drive. The result was absolute disaster. He shot us out of several late season games in the fourth quarter and was absolutely atrocious in the playoffs.

Glen Davis is no more a 10 million a year player than Kendrick Perkins. The sooner he realizes it, the sooner he can maximize his limited skillset, preferably on a winner like the Celtics.

[slamtheking]

People may disagree with this statement, but I believe that Jeff Green played better than Glen Davis last season.  If putting Green and Davis on the floor at the same time is bad due to their collective poor rebounding, then I believe Davis is the guy who should sit.  If Doc won't sit him, then he needs to be removed from the roster somehow.

This combo could have been effective provided they had a genuine center on the court with them so that BBD was at PF and Green at SF.

[slamtheking]

I think BBD can get 3-4 mill a year for 2-3 years from a team looking to shore up their frontline with an experienced player with some skills  I could actually see Orlando taking a run at him depending on the new CBA for maybe a 2 year deal.    BBD having Howard next to him negates a lot of his rebounding issues. 

[2short]

Does another team want him as a starter..isn't that the question
Davis is looking mfor a starting role, it's his brain and MOUTH that are the problems.  I think he's talked his way out of Boston, we could use him as a rotation player but he reallybthinks he's good enoughi to be a starter. 
There are enough bad gms out there so I'm sure someone will overpay for him I justbhope we can do the sign and trade.
I for onke don't want him back at any price, let him walk and sign a vet who will know his role