Potential 4 Team Deal

[southshorematt]

We all know that AI and Monta Ellis have been rumored to be on the move.
I think the celtics should work with these teams to get themselves involved and contribute pieces to a 4 team trade that would bring back pieces for them in return.

Here is my trade idea:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3on3dhb

Boston would be getting a scoring threat in Monta Ellis. His pure scoring ability would make up for the loss of Ray Allen on the offensive end of the floor, while his defense would be much improved under the direction of KG, Paul Pierce, and Rajon Rondo. This acquisition would provide the celtics to have an extremely quick front court, and would give the celtics a dominant scorer to go to down the stretch of games.

The C's would also have a great grouping with Rondo, Ellis, and Green on the floor. Those three players are fast enough to get out on any team and run in transition. This type of play is key to some of the success Miami has had this year. With These three running on the break, 2nd unit player Kyle Korver would have tons of spot up three's in the corner and he is a knock down shooter who would knock most of them down.

The Chicago Bulls move Carlos Boozer due to the fact that he was completely exposed in these playoffs. He is still a great player, just not the one for their system.

Philly will get Boozer, who overall averaged higher PPG and RPG in the 2011 season than AI had done. Also take in to account him playing with the dynamic scorer; Derrick Rose. In Philly, he will score more per game and overall instill a veteran leadership in that young locker room. Philly will also receive Ray Allen and Avery Bradley from Boston. Ray will provide Philly with a knock down shooter and will also provide that young team with more veteran leadership. Avery Bradley will be a young project for Doug Collins. Bradley with a little more work could be a shut down NBA defender. With the help of coach Collins he could develop his offense and be a great player in the next 2-4 seasons.

Golden State get's the man they've been after all along, AI.

The Chicago Bulls will replace Boozer with Elton Brand, someone who might work better in their system. Jermaine O'Neil proved that he can still play at a high defensive level in Boston's playoff run. He would be a great piece off the bench for the Bulls. He blocks and alters shots, and would add to the teams already stout defense.


I love basketball... and I just wrote this all because I enjoy this type of thing. It more than likely isn't going to happen, but hey... who knows what type of move Danny has up his sleeve.

[action781]

Trades these big are tough to pull off...  This would leave Boston center-less.

But I like the idea of Chicago trading Boozer and getting Brand back.  I think Korver is a great fit for Chicago though and they don't need JO with Gibson and Asik.

[southshorematt]

Yeah, Chicago does have alot of depth at center. But I was thinking the could use Asik, Gibson, or JO to leverage another move to compensate the loss of Korver.

As far as Boston's center drought, there are a few free agents out their that may be able to fill the wholes, but not cost to much.

[jaybahs]

WE NEED BIGS

[Quinn]

I think if this trade could happen, we'd have to do it. I know Monta plays best with the ball in his hand, but if he could learn to sacrifice his stats for a year or two, then he could be the face of our franchise in a few years. Imagine if he could learn to play off Rondo, we'd have the most devastating back court in the league.

Sure we lose J.O., but really, its just J.O. Who's to say he's not going to have another terrible injury? We shouldn't have much faith in him as our C anyways, we need to use to MLE to split between a couple of serviceable bigs with defensive abilities, I don't care if they don't know how to make a shot, this team could have a LOT of firepower.

re-sign D-West for the LLE, let baby walk

Starting line-up
Rondo
Ellis
Jeff Green
KG
MLE Center

bench:
Paul Piece (super-sub, sixth man of the year)
D-West
Kyle Korver
MLE PF/C

[PosImpos]

terrible trade for the Bulls if all they get is Elton Brand, who has a lot less left in the tank than Boozer, even if he supposedly fits their system better.  they have no need for JO because they have Noah and Asik, who are younger, bigger, longer, and just better in every way.

the celtics really can't afford to give up JO anyway, because there just aren't any decent centers in the off-season who will come here for the MLE.

[chambers]

Can't really see where the Bulls would look twice at this idea.
It's okay for everyone except Chicago and Philly(lol).
Chicago-Yeah they are getting rid of Boozer but they're picking up another guy who's more expensive and arguably not even as good, PLUS they're losing their knock down shooter off the bench for a guy on 1.5 legs in JO.

I like the idea though and it's not as far fetched as a lot of other stuff. Chicago just needs more out of it. If you could throw in big baby or a similar role player (Chicago has the 4 spot covered pretty well) then they might do it to simply unload the disaster that is the Boozer project.

Philly is getting Ray Allen+Bradley and a mildly upgraded version of Brand on a similarly horrid contract but they are losing Iguodala who they could probably get more for.

[Freeease1]

you are on the right track. a trade with goldenstate and philly.
However I would send K G to golden state for monta Ellisa and David le and their first round draft pick ( or swap pick so we can draft a big) and in a sepearte deal send Ellis to Philly for
 A I. I would then trade Ray Allen and pick 2 25 to the t wolves for pick 2 and 20 and Johnn Flynn. Draft a Big at 2 and at 20 a wing (sg or Sf) that is the best available

[wdleehi]

Why do they need Boston?


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3k5hbkz

[KCattheStripe]

But, Monta Ellis is bad at Basketball.

[action781]

Why do they need Boston?


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3k5hbkz

Interesting.  I think Chicago might like this.  GS would have to like it.  I dunno about Philly though, what's the selling point for them?  Cap room + flexibility?  They trade away Iggy and get back... Boozer?  A guy who couldn't really get it done on a way better Utah team?  That's a tough sell.  They'd need to get back draft pick consideration from GS and maybe more.

Actually, would this Philly team become an enticing destination for Dwight Howard? 

PG:  Holliday/Williams
SG:  Bogans/Korver/Williams
SF:  Korver/Turner
PF:  Boozer/Thad Young

with flexibility to sign more players and some young tradeable assets in place for additional pieces could be of interest for Howard IMO.  I think Turner + a future first could get back a great #2 option from a team looking to get younger (Ginobili after another season??), which would then make Boozer the #3 option...  I'm really intrigued by this.

[wdleehi]

Why do they need Boston?


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3k5hbkz

Interesting.  I think Chicago might like this.  GS would have to like it.  I dunno about Philly though, what's the selling point for them?  Cap room + flexibility?  They trade away Iggy and get back... Boozer?  A guy who couldn't really get it done on a way better Utah team?  That's a tough sell.  They'd need to get back draft pick consideration from GS and maybe more.

Actually, would this Philly team become an enticing destination for Dwight Howard? 

PG:  Holliday/Williams
SG:  Bogans/Korver/Williams
SF:  Korver/Turner
PF:  Boozer/Thad Young

with flexibility to sign more players and some young tradeable assets in place for additional pieces could be of interest for Howard IMO.  I think Turner + a future first could get back a great #2 option from a team looking to get younger (Ginobili after another season??), which would then make Boozer the #3 option...  I'm really intrigued by this.

They trim about 6 million in salary next year.  (and whatever tax)

[action781]

Why do they need Boston?


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3k5hbkz

Interesting.  I think Chicago might like this.  GS would have to like it.  I dunno about Philly though, what's the selling point for them?  Cap room + flexibility?  They trade away Iggy and get back... Boozer?  A guy who couldn't really get it done on a way better Utah team?  That's a tough sell.  They'd need to get back draft pick consideration from GS and maybe more.

Actually, would this Philly team become an enticing destination for Dwight Howard? 

PG:  Holliday/Williams
SG:  Bogans/Korver/Williams
SF:  Korver/Turner
PF:  Boozer/Thad Young

with flexibility to sign more players and some young tradeable assets in place for additional pieces could be of interest for Howard IMO.  I think Turner + a future first could get back a great #2 option from a team looking to get younger (Ginobili after another season??), which would then make Boozer the #3 option...  I'm really intrigued by this.

They trim about 6 million in salary next year.  (and whatever tax)

Kinda figured that's really all they get out of it.  Still not so terrible considering not just the trim but also the added flexibility.  They aren't currently in the luxury tax for next season though, btw.

[RyNye]

That's gotta be one of the worst proposed trade ideas I've seen yet. Kyle Korver is just awful (Ray Allen can shoot better and create his own shot better than him), Monta Ellis is a one-trick pony, and we lose our only remaining big man.

[southshorematt]

your the man