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Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« on: June 06, 2011, 12:52:52 PM »

Offline bfrombleacher

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I think almost every pundit on the internet are saying not to re-sign Von Wafer. What!?

The guy can start on some lesser teams. He's cheap. He's 25, meaning he will improve. He is buying in to the defense. He's the athletic spark that comes off the bench. He knows the plays the team runs.

I can see almost no downside to keeping this guy.

Edit: Sorry, his contract is indeed expired.
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Re: Why does everybody want to trade Wafer?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 12:54:38 PM »

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I like Wafer, but if he has to be part of a deal that makes our top 8 better then so be it.

Re: Why does everybody want to trade Wafer?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 12:55:05 PM »

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I haven't seen anyone say trade Wafer...mainly because he is not under contract.  

The question is whether we resign him or not, and I think that will come down to what kind of contract he wants.  If he is willing to come back for standard raise on last years deal, then I think it is a no-brainer to bring him back as a guy who already knows the system, and can hopefully take the next step next year, and at least provide them depth.

Re: Why does everybody want to trade Wafer?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 12:56:02 PM »

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I think almost every pundit on the internet are saying trade Von Wafer. What!?

The guy can start on some lesser teams. He's cheap. He's 25, meaning he will improve. He is buying in to the defense. He's the athletic spark that comes off the bench. He knows the plays the team runs.

I can see almost no downside to keeping this guy.

Then every pundit is ill-informed. He's not under contract next year, so it'd have to be a sign and trade.
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Re: Why does everybody want to trade Wafer?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 01:00:37 PM »

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I think almost every pundit on the internet are saying trade Von Wafer. What!?

The guy can start on some lesser teams. He's cheap. He's 25, meaning he will improve. He is buying in to the defense. He's the athletic spark that comes off the bench. He knows the plays the team runs.

I can see almost no downside to keeping this guy.

Then every pundit is ill-informed. He's not under contract next year, so it'd have to be a sign and trade.


Right. VW is a free bird, and as refreshing as it was to watch him buy into the system we may be better off with Sasha's size and perimeter defense if we're talking vet. mini.




Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 02:01:55 PM »

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I don't.  He's one of the very few (only?) guy on our roster who can actually take the ball to the hoop and finish

Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 02:13:40 PM »

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I'd keep him. If Von or Sasha are willing to take the minimum again, i would gladly take them back.

They are good enough to be a 9th man or so.

ok defense, ok shooting, solid size. They have the solid all around baseline of skills.

Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 02:19:21 PM »

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I don't mind seeing whatever minutes he would get at shooting guard going to Avery Bradley.

At the same time, I wouldn't mind keeping Wafer and replacing Delonte West with someone healthier who is a better playmaker and initiator of offense at backup point guard.
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Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 02:27:47 PM »

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I don't mind seeing whatever minutes he would get at shooting guard going to Avery Bradley.

At the same time, I wouldn't mind keeping Wafer and replacing Delonte West with someone healthier who is a better playmaker and initiator of offense at backup point guard.

You wouldn't keep D. West if he agreed to a raise at the vet. minimum? Here are the choices to back up RR:


Restricted FA - Aaron Brooks & Mario Chalmers
Unrestricted FA - Jose Juan Berea, Mike Bibby, Sebastian Telfair, Ronnie Price

Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
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As a cheap 13th or so man, sure if there isn't a need elsewhere.




Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 02:47:23 PM »

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I don't mind seeing whatever minutes he would get at shooting guard going to Avery Bradley.

At the same time, I wouldn't mind keeping Wafer and replacing Delonte West with someone healthier who is a better playmaker and initiator of offense at backup point guard.

You wouldn't keep D. West if he agreed to a raise at the vet. minimum? Here are the choices to back up RR:


Restricted FA - Aaron Brooks & Mario Chalmers
Unrestricted FA - Jose Juan Berea, Mike Bibby, Sebastian Telfair, Ronnie Price

Keeping West is very important. I hope the LLE for 2 years gets it done. (if the rules are somewhat the same in the new CBA)

Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 03:56:41 PM »

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I don't mind seeing whatever minutes he would get at shooting guard going to Avery Bradley.

At the same time, I wouldn't mind keeping Wafer and replacing Delonte West with someone healthier who is a better playmaker and initiator of offense at backup point guard.

You wouldn't keep D. West if he agreed to a raise at the vet. minimum? Here are the choices to back up RR:


Restricted FA - Aaron Brooks & Mario Chalmers
Unrestricted FA - Jose Juan Berea, Mike Bibby, Sebastian Telfair, Ronnie Price

Keeping West is very important. I hope the LLE for 2 years gets it done. (if the rules are somewhat the same in the new CBA)

I think he'll be compelled to resign and may accept the  vet. mini with a raise attached. Mentally he's in a good place with this group and if he can stay injury free he'll surely be a key contributor, which will pay him more $$ in 2012.







Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 04:00:19 PM »

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I don't mind seeing whatever minutes he would get at shooting guard going to Avery Bradley.

At the same time, I wouldn't mind keeping Wafer and replacing Delonte West with someone healthier who is a better playmaker and initiator of offense at backup point guard.

You wouldn't keep D. West if he agreed to a raise at the vet. minimum? Here are the choices to back up RR:

My first choice would probably be to try and bring back West for cheap and to sign a real back-up point guard, with the intention of having Avery Bradley get occasional minutes at shooting guard.

I just don't see a huge gulf that would make me disappointed if they kept Wafer and let West go.  That's mainly due to West being about as big of an injury risk as Jermaine O'Neal.
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Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 04:51:29 PM »

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I love Wafer... But i havent even seen his name mentioned on this site or any other? Where are you getting that everyone wants to get rid of him?

Re: Why does everybody want to get rid of Wafer?
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I agree that we should keep Wafer.  He'll come relatively cheap, and I think there's reason to believe he'd improve with more time and consistency on the team.
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