Monta Ellis on the market ...we atleast have to try

[stylo617617]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Allen Iverson
Monta Ellis
Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony
Every shoot first point guard of the last 20 years

The list goes on and on.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

so jamal crawford it is ! lol

[perks-a-beast]

Jeff Green (Sign & Trade), Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2012 draft pick for Monta. I'd do that trade. I don't see why the Warriors wouldnt. They're getting two raw, you talented players, a servicable big man and a pick which they can do what they please with.

I really like Monta as a player. He moves well without the ball, GREAT mid range game, good 3 point shooter and plays tough defense when he's into it. Having him in at the end of games makes us tough to cover.

He's not the greatest play maker but having Rondo by his side will help him alot. and with Pierce, Allen, and KG out there with him as decoys, his offensive game would be unreal. I only wish he was a little taller...

Rondo
Ellis
Pierce
Garnett
FA Center    with Ray Ray off the bench

[CelticsFanNC]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

  I agree completely.  As much positive impact Jordan had in furthering the NBA's visibility he did as much damage to the quality of basketball being played.

  Had the NBA & ESPN decided to hype/market Bird and Magic to the level they did with Jordan the game we see today would be a much better product.

[wdleehi]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

  I agree completely.  As much positive impact Jordan had in furthering the NBA's visibility he did as much damage to the quality of basketball being played.

  Had the NBA & ESPN decided to hype/market Bird and Magic to the level they did with Jordan the game we see today would be a much better product.

Jordon did more then what these players copy.  He played in a high structured offense.


What everyone patterned their game after was when the offense broke down and Jordon used his skills to create offense anyways.


Then, ESPN, would show those highlights. 


Therefor, that is what the young players see.  That is what they copied. 

[CeltsAcumen]

Chad Ford just threw out an interesting idea: Monta for the #2 pick.

Would need to be some filler from Minnesota to make it work.

I would rather have Derrick Williams than Monta Ellis.  SO I would not make that trade.

[Chris]

Chad Ford just threw out an interesting idea: Monta for the #2 pick.

Would need to be some filler from Minnesota to make it work.

I would rather have Derrick Williams than Monta Ellis.  SO I would not make that trade.

I would take Ellis, particularly on Minnesota's roster.  They already have Beasley, who is a crazy man's Derrick Williams, and Love at the PF spot.  What they are really missing is a perimeter player who can create their own shot, and that is Ellis. 

I actually think that deal is a win-win for both teams. 

[Las Vegas Asian]

Do you have any links regarding him being on the market?  Seeing the actual articles can help us know whether this is an actual rumor, or just speculation by bloggers.

Also, regarding the rumors of the C's being interested in him a couple years ago, it was a lot of speculation, but from what I remember, Golden State wasn't actually interested in trading him, particularly not for what the C's were offering. 

Tim Kawakami wrote a thought-piece today that Jerry West has been brought in to facilitate a Monta Ellis trade.

Nothing concrete about Ellis being available. More of a "tea leaves" kind of article from TK.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/05/31/trade-monta-ellis-jerry-west-just-might-be-the-guy-to-do-it/

Yeah I could see Jerry facilitating a Warriors-Lakers trade. If something like this goes down then I know for sure there was something shady with West's involvement in the Gasol deal!!!

[GreenEnvy]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Allen Iverson
Monta Ellis
Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony
Every shoot first point guard of the last 20 years

The list goes on and on.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

Wait, so it's Jordan's fault that players of inferior talent are trying to emulate a player who was so successful at what he did?

You can knock Jordan's style all you want, but last time I checked he was an efficient league-leading scorer who won six championships (5 League MVP's and 6 Finals MVP's).

Blame this new crop of players mentalities and their respective coaches.


That said, I think Iverson did it more out of necessity as his teams were pretty horrible. Also, Carmelo is a pretty smooth scorer, often making it look effotless.

I don't think chuckers and ballhogs are a post-Jordan creation.

[stylo617617]

Chad Ford just threw out an interesting idea: Monta for the #2 pick.

Would need to be some filler from Minnesota to make it work.

I would rather have Derrick Williams than Monta Ellis.  SO I would not make that trade.

I would take Ellis, particularly on Minnesota's roster.  They already have Beasley, who is a crazy man's Derrick Williams, and Love at the PF spot.  What they are really missing is a perimeter player who can create their own shot, and that is Ellis. 

I actually think that deal is a win-win for both teams. 

yeah gs can put dorrel wright at the 2 gaurd

curry
wright
william
epke udoh or w.e
david lee

nice starting 5

Do you have any links regarding him being on the market?  Seeing the actual articles can help us know whether this is an actual rumor, or just speculation by bloggers.

Also, regarding the rumors of the C's being interested in him a couple years ago, it was a lot of speculation, but from what I remember, Golden State wasn't actually interested in trading him, particularly not for what the C's were offering.  

Tim Kawakami wrote a thought-piece today that Jerry West has been brought in to facilitate a Monta Ellis trade.

Nothing concrete about Ellis being available. More of a "tea leaves" kind of article from TK.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/05/31/trade-monta-ellis-jerry-west-just-might-be-the-guy-to-do-it/

Yeah I could see Jerry facilitating a Warriors-Lakers trade. If something like this goes down then I know for sure there was something shady with West's involvement in the Gasol deal!!!

lol yeah i totally see a steve blake & luke walton for monta ellis & a 1st round pick thing happening it works out financially

[Greenbean]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Allen Iverson
Monta Ellis
Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony
Every shoot first point guard of the last 20 years

The list goes on and on.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

Wait, so it's Jordan's fault that players of inferior talent are trying to emulate a player who was so successful at what he did?

You can knock Jordan's style all you want, but last time I checked he was an efficient league-leading scorer who won six championships (5 League MVP's and 6 Finals MVP's).

Blame this new crop of players mentalities and their respective coaches.


That said, I think Iverson did it more out of necessity as his teams were pretty horrible. Also, Carmelo is a pretty smooth scorer, often making it look effotless.

I don't think chuckers and ballhogs are a post-Jordan creation.

I agree with both of these posts. It takes a transcendant talent such as Jordan, Kobe, Lebron (yuck) to make islation basketball work consistently. Furthermore, it takes an actual offense built around that talent to score in isolation such as Jordans and even Kobe's.

I cant believe it is working with Lebron and Wade just taking turns going 1 on 5 but Miami two transcendant talents so it isnt really fair!

So yes...it is Jordan's fault, indirectly. He showed young players the path to unimaginable fame, money, and power by playing ball just like him.

If only our Celtics, who for the most part have played team oriented basketball while maintaining a core or relatively marketable players, could have rattled off 3 or 4 titles, just maybe things could have turned around for the style of play the league prefers.

But unfortunately it probably isnt going back unless another team full of truly unselfish superstars emerges.

[greg683x]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Allen Iverson
Monta Ellis
Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony
Every shoot first point guard of the last 20 years

The list goes on and on.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

Wait, so it's Jordan's fault that players of inferior talent are trying to emulate a player who was so successful at what he did?

You can knock Jordan's style all you want, but last time I checked he was an efficient league-leading scorer who won six championships (5 League MVP's and 6 Finals MVP's).

Blame this new crop of players mentalities and their respective coaches.


That said, I think Iverson did it more out of necessity as his teams were pretty horrible. Also, Carmelo is a pretty smooth scorer, often making it look effotless.

I don't think chuckers and ballhogs are a post-Jordan creation.

No Iverson was a ballhog.  You could put an all-NBA starting lineup around him and he'll still shoot 9-30.  If anyone needs to be given a pardon from that list it's probably Melo, definitely not Iverson.  He's the poster boy for the type of character and style of play that you would NOT want from someone youre gonna build your team around.  Theres a reason he's playing in Turkey or wherever the hell hes playing at now so he can get his touches and his starting lineup nod.

[Celtic#9]

Monta Ellis is the exact type of player I would NEVER want on this club.

Michael Jordan ruined an entire generation or more of talent with his give me the ball and get out of my way approach to offensive basketball.

Allen Iverson
Monta Ellis
Gilbert Arenas
Carmelo Anthony
Every shoot first point guard of the last 20 years

The list goes on and on.

Every one growing up thinking they are MJ and mimicking his selfish way of basketball.

Woah time out...when did Melo play Point Guard?

[PortCelt]

How can Monta Ellis defend D. Wade?

[Celtic#9]

How can Monta Ellis defend D. Wade?

How can Monta Ellis guard my grandma?

[CelticSince83]

Monta's Drtg has always been horrible.  Considering the Celtics are in the East and need to somehow beat Miami, Monta Ellis would be the last person I want guarding D-Wade.  Although I guess we could always put Rondo on him and assume that maybe Monta Ellis can stop Mike Bibby.

Ellis also needs to dominate the ball, so having him with Rondo and Pierce is going to be a SERIOUS problem. 

Nevermind the fact that the trade idea includes JO, who is going to be apparently replaced with a FA center.  So last year we started out with Shaq, Perk and JO at the 5, and now we are just going to be left with a MLE player and Kristic at the 5?  That should go real well........................