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Trade back for Semih
« on: May 30, 2011, 11:37:14 AM »

Offline heitingas

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TPE and 2011 first for Semih Erden ?
buy a 2nd pick, draft Leuer
Draft another one with our own 2nd pick.

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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 11:51:42 AM »

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???

Listen, I liked Semih.  I thought he did a good job filling in when we were desperate for frontcourt help.  He seems like he could be a decent backup C in the league.  Decent hands, reasonably athletic.

He ain't worth no first rounder, though.  Terrible rebounder.  Not a terrific defender.  Just not that good. 

Plus, rumor was he wanted to go back to Turkey.

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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 11:55:50 AM »

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I think decent backup is a bit too much. Maybe mediocre backup, solid 14th man.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 11:57:22 AM »

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Yeah, supposedly the Celtics traded him because he was really homesick and wanted to go back to Turkey.  Otherwise they wouldn't have given up on him so readily.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 11:58:08 AM »

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I understand he isn't great but we know what we're getting, anything in this draft is uncertain especially at 25. Danny won't sign any 1st round pick because the first 2 years are guaranteed,
(it works against 2012 plan) and it probably stays like that in the new CBA. So when we get Semih he is athletic and young, and healthy he could be had for only 800 k. I think we should do this.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 12:17:43 PM »

Offline CaptainJackLee

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There are always players comparable to Semih and that can fill the same role available in free-agency.

If Danny doesn't want to sign the pick, he can:
- trade it for a future pick
- sign someone that agrees to go/stay aboard to develop
- trade it for cash and use the money to sign someone better than Semih

To trade the pick for a 5th big is what makes the least sense.

I also don't think that the quality of the players available in the late 1st round in this draft is worse than in any other draft. The difference may be in the lottery, in the amount of top talent available, but after that it's pretty much the same every year.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 12:33:38 PM »

Offline heitingas

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Even if he trades for a future 1st it will be be at least top 25 protected since this year's draft is very weak,yeah the option to keep player abroad or send them there but we're talking about this trade alone, Cleveland couldn't just take a 2nd pick for Semih.

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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 02:27:22 PM »

Offline Silent Storm

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"Apparently, the Celtics traded Semih Erden to Cleveland because they felt he would return to Europe anyway out of homesickness. The Cavaliers have yet to see what they have in Erden because of shoulder and groin surgeries and a lack of conditioning. The Celtics relayed to Cleveland that Erden needed shoulder surgery, but the groin issue is new. Erden played in just four games after being acquired from the Celtics Feb. 24." - Per Gary Washburn
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 02:15:18 AM »

Offline LilRip

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uhm, no. let's not trade for Semih. He was nice and all but completely replaceable, even by players in the D-League. we can just sign them and not give up a pick
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 03:38:21 AM »

Offline European NBA fan

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He is the kind of player I would love to see in training camp, earning his spot as a free agent. But trading for him? Not so much. There are better talents at no. 25 in this draft.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 05:27:44 AM »

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Quote from: heitingas on May 30, 2011, 11:37:14 AM
TPE and 2011 first for Semih Erden ?
buy a 2nd pick, draft Leuer
Draft another one with our own 2nd pick.



I love it.  I'd love to get Semih back, and Leuer is one of my favorites in this draft.  Nothing lost there, as far as I can see. 
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2011, 06:40:00 AM »

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would rather see chis johnson and then put him on strength program
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2011, 09:23:28 AM »

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Quote from: hardlyyardley on May 31, 2011, 06:40:00 AM
would rather see chis johnson and then put him on strength program

this. chris johnson could be the next birdman for all we know.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2011, 10:57:47 AM »

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+1 for Chris Johnson really raw talent but i love his athleticism.
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Re: Trade back for Semih
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2011, 04:35:58 PM »

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I have to believe Semih was traded for a reason.  Whether it is physical stuff, or off the court stuff, something told these guys that he was not a good bet to be a longterm success in this league.  I trust them on this.
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