Does this year's playoffs show that Rondo is (at least) on par with Rose?

[bfrombleacher]

Rondo looked really good apart from that stretch in Game 4.

[CelticsFanNC]

  Don't know what these playoffs said about Rondo because he was hurt and didn't play up to the level he has in past post seasons.

  What these playoffs said about Rose is he is yet another NBA player who has been over hyped by the media because he can score a lot of points but in reality doesn't do anything other then score to help his team win games.  I hate to compare him to Iverson because I do think he is a better p[layer then Iverson but that is exactly who he looked like.  If you need to take 30 shots to score 30 points you're just not scoring efficiently therefore you are probably hurting your team as much as you are helping it.

  The media, specifically ESPN has been over rating/over hyping scorers for twenty years.

[paulcowens]

I think it says a lot about Rondo that Dwayne Wade apparently thought it was prudent to take him out of the series.   In my opinion, if Rondo played with focus and 'push', more aggressively, more consistently, there'd be no debate at all about who is the best point guard in the league.  And if he ever significantly improves his shooting, l think his potential is well beyond Rose's potential.

[Moranis]

No

[kn 99]

In the new york series when he wasnt hurt his all around game beat rose by a mile. Sure rose scored more but rondo not only scored he had monster assist nights( 20) and rebounding nights

[EDWARDO]

Rondo looked really good apart from that stretch in Game 4.

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[EDWARDO]

  Don't know what these playoffs said about Rondo because he was hurt and didn't play up to the level he has in past post seasons.

  What these playoffs said about Rose is he is yet another NBA player who has been over hyped by the media because he can score a lot of points but in reality doesn't do anything other then score to help his team win games.  I hate to compare him to Iverson because I do think he is a better p[layer then Iverson but that is exactly who he looked like.  If you need to take 30 shots to score 30 points you're just not scoring efficiently therefore you are probably hurting your team as much as you are helping it.

  The media, specifically ESPN has been over rating/over hyping scorers for twenty years.

Are

[EDWARDO]

I think it says a lot about Rondo that Dwayne Wade apparently thought it was prudent to take him out of the series.   In my opinion, if Rondo played with focus and 'push', more aggressively, more consistently, there'd be no debate at all about who is the best point guard in the league.  And if he ever significantly improves his shooting, l think his potential is well beyond Rose's potential.

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[EDWARDO]

In the new york series when he wasnt hurt his all around game beat rose by a mile. Sure rose scored more but rondo not only scored he had monster assist nights( 20) and rebounding nights

Smoking!?!??

[Vermont Green]

What the playoffs show is that Miami is really good, Boston is really old, and Chicago is really thin after Rose when matched up against a team as good as Miami.

Rose carried Chicago all season and through 2 playoff rounds.  Every team goes in trying to stop Rose but most couldn't.  Miami could becasue they are that much better than Indiana or Atlanta.

Switch Rose and Rondo and I think the Celtics beat the Heat and the Bulls don't have home court even in the playoffs.  I can't prove that with any stats but it is what I see when I watch the games.

[BballTim]

What the playoffs show is that Miami is really good, Boston is really old, and Chicago is really thin after Rose when matched up against a team as good as Miami.

Rose carried Chicago all season and through 2 playoff rounds.  Every team goes in trying to stop Rose but most couldn't.  Miami could becasue they are that much better than Indiana or Atlanta.

Switch Rose and Rondo and I think the Celtics beat the Heat and the Bulls don't have home court even in the playoffs.  I can't prove that with any stats but it is what I see when I watch the games.

  Switch a healthy Rondo for Rondo and we're still playing.

[soap07]

What the playoffs show is that Miami is really good, Boston is really old, and Chicago is really thin after Rose when matched up against a team as good as Miami.

Rose carried Chicago all season and through 2 playoff rounds.  Every team goes in trying to stop Rose but most couldn't.  Miami could becasue they are that much better than Indiana or Atlanta.

Switch Rose and Rondo and I think the Celtics beat the Heat and the Bulls don't have home court even in the playoffs.  I can't prove that with any stats but it is what I see when I watch the games.

  Switch a healthy Rondo for Rondo and we're still playing.

Playing where? Surely not in the playoffs. Did Games 1 and 2 not happen?


And no, Rondo is not better Rose.


People act like all Rose does is score. He's the best defending point guard in the league.

[Fan from VT]

What the playoffs show is that Miami is really good, Boston is really old, and Chicago is really thin after Rose when matched up against a team as good as Miami.

Rose carried Chicago all season and through 2 playoff rounds.  Every team goes in trying to stop Rose but most couldn't.  Miami could becasue they are that much better than Indiana or Atlanta.

Switch Rose and Rondo and I think the Celtics beat the Heat and the Bulls don't have home court even in the playoffs.  I can't prove that with any stats but it is what I see when I watch the games.

  Switch a healthy Rondo for Rondo and we're still playing.

Playing where? Surely not in the playoffs. Did Games 1 and 2 not happen?


And no, Rondo is not better Rose.


People act like all Rose does is score. He's the best defending point guard in the league.

wait, this is absolutely not true. he's below average, and that's still the consistent knock on him. he COULD be the best due to his size/athleticism combo, but pretty much everyone recognizes he's not there yet.

[soap07]

wait, this is absolutely not true. he's below average, and that's still the consistent knock on him. he COULD be the best due to his size/athleticism combo, but pretty much everyone recognizes he's not there yet.

Someone hasn't watched games this year.

More outstanding yet are Rose’s individual defensive numbers. According to Synergy Sports Technology, Rose has allowed just 0.77 points per possession overall on defense this season, an elite mark for any defender, regardless of position. Chris Paul (0.86 points per possession allowed), Rajon Rondo (0.83 PPP allowed), and Russell Westbrook (0.92 PPP allowed) –- all excellent defenders -– have been trumped statistically this year, and by no slim margin. Rose has each of those players handily beat, and boasts a shockingly comprehensive defensive profile.

Rose is particularly effective in defending isolation sequences, where he allows just 0.61 points per possession. Rose’s lateral quickness becomes a huge asset when opponents go one-on-one. In this sequence, watch how Rose goes over the pick with the Sixers’ Jrue Holiday, and yet still stays with him step for step as he drives into the lane:

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/rose-dwarfs-other-improvements-with-defense/


I can pull up other numbers if you'd like. His dRTG is 103, among the best for point guards.

[pearljammer10]

Rondo looked really good apart from that stretch in Game 4.

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Ditto.



Its hard to judge Rondos performance based on his health issues.