Anyone else watching this epic Chicago collapse?

[StartOrien]

After seeing that first Derek Rose free throw I would've bet my life that he'd miss the second. Talk about a deer in the headlights...

[Moranis]

Derrick Rose: 2010-2011 MVP



He has a long way to go, yet.

I don't even remember the last regular season MVP to win an NBA championship that same year. Maybe Duncan or Shaq? I consider a curse for whatever team's player get's that award

but everyone knows that Rose wasn't really the MVP.  It always should have been Dirk or Lebron.  They are the two most valuable players in the league and it isn't like they didn't have the stats to win.  The Chicago media started pumping Rose up early and it just caught on, but he is not the MVP and everyone knows it.

[Moranis]

I think Miami proves that the emphasis on team's bench's is overrated. It's star power that wins in the NBA.

a bench is only important for the regular season when you need your starters to rest.  In the playoffs you play 8 and occasionally 9 guys any sort of real minutes.  That is all you need.

[wdleehi]

Good team defense always destroys one man offensive team. 

For anyone that thinks Dallas has a good shot in the Finals they need to read this.

Dallas will really have to play above their heads and get significant performances from their role players while Lebron and Wade will have to go cold. I could easily see this being another 5 game series for Miami

I would not characterize Dallas as a one-man offensive team.  Terry, Barea, Marion, and even Kidd, Stojakovic, and Chandler can all score at times.

Dallas has multiple players that have showed they can step up and be offensive forces in big moments. 

I think you guys are being a bit generous. Marion, Peja, Kidd, Chandler (especially Chandler) are not offensive forces in any sense of the word. I don't think you can rely on any of those guys to consistenly do much on offense.

As for Terry and Barea I don't really see being much better offensively than Boozer and Deng

Boozer and Deng have stepped up in the regular season.


We have seen Terry and Barea be offensive energizers off the bench in the playoffs.


We have seen Kidd hit big shot after big shot in the playoffs.  Chicago does not have that. 

[CelticG1]

Good team defense always destroys one man offensive team. 

For anyone that thinks Dallas has a good shot in the Finals they need to read this.

Dallas will really have to play above their heads and get significant performances from their role players while Lebron and Wade will have to go cold. I could easily see this being another 5 game series for Miami

I would not characterize Dallas as a one-man offensive team.  Terry, Barea, Marion, and even Kidd, Stojakovic, and Chandler can all score at times.

Dallas has multiple players that have showed they can step up and be offensive forces in big moments. 

I think you guys are being a bit generous. Marion, Peja, Kidd, Chandler (especially Chandler) are not offensive forces in any sense of the word. I don't think you can rely on any of those guys to consistenly do much on offense.

As for Terry and Barea I don't really see being much better offensively than Boozer and Deng

Boozer and Deng have stepped up in the regular season.


We have seen Terry and Barea be offensive energizers off the bench in the playoffs.


We have seen Kidd hit big shot after big shot in the playoffs.  Chicago does not have that. 

Yes Kidd has a knack for big shots, big defensive stands, pretty much just big plays.

I agree with Terry and Barea this playoffs all I'm saying is that i those are my primary offensive weapons next to Dirk than I am worried.

Not to mention next to Lebron you got Wade and Bosh, along with their suffocating defense.

[Fafnir]

Derrick Rose: 2010-2011 MVP



He has a long way to go, yet.

I don't even remember the last regular season MVP to win an NBA championship that same year. Maybe Duncan or Shaq? I consider a curse for whatever team's player get's that award

but everyone knows that Rose wasn't really the MVP.  It always should have been Dirk or Lebron.  They are the two most valuable players in the league and it isn't like they didn't have the stats to win.  The Chicago media started pumping Rose up early and it just caught on, but he is not the MVP and everyone knows it.

I'd put Howard up there as well, Otis Smith has done a horrible job putting players around him.

[CelticG1]

Derrick Rose: 2010-2011 MVP



He has a long way to go, yet.

I don't even remember the last regular season MVP to win an NBA championship that same year. Maybe Duncan or Shaq? I consider a curse for whatever team's player get's that award

but everyone knows that Rose wasn't really the MVP.  It always should have been Dirk or Lebron.  They are the two most valuable players in the league and it isn't like they didn't have the stats to win.  The Chicago media started pumping Rose up early and it just caught on, but he is not the MVP and everyone knows it.

I think Rose deserved it. He carried that team to a number 1 seed with Boozer and Noah both missing significant time due to injury.

I don't see what Lebron did during the regular season as that impressive. He won more games with his Cav's team than he did with Miami where he has superior teammates. Were his stats ay better even? Obviously you can always make a case for him.

Not sure about Dirk's regular season. I didn't even know he was in the discussion necessarily. But a lot of those guys are always in the discussion and unless they impact the season in  a dramatic way they aren't going to get as much love. You need to get the 1 seed, lead the league in scoring, break some records etc. to really stand out. As Fafnir said above I think Howard probably fits in this category as having a stand out year

Dirk and Lebron basically finished where people thought they would or maybe even worse.

[European NBA fan]

Dallas and their zone defense is really a different monster. Especially Wade will have his problems against them. Not saying that Heat aren't the favorites to win, but it's just a very different game, where they can't create the same kind of match up-problems, as they did against us and the Bulls.

[Fafnir]

Derrick Rose: 2010-2011 MVP



He has a long way to go, yet.

I don't even remember the last regular season MVP to win an NBA championship that same year. Maybe Duncan or Shaq? I consider a curse for whatever team's player get's that award

but everyone knows that Rose wasn't really the MVP.  It always should have been Dirk or Lebron.  They are the two most valuable players in the league and it isn't like they didn't have the stats to win.  The Chicago media started pumping Rose up early and it just caught on, but he is not the MVP and everyone knows it.

I think Rose deserved it. He carried that team to a number 1 seed with Boozer and Noah both missing significant time due to injury.

I don't see what Lebron did during the regular season as that impressive. He won more games with his Cav's team than he did with Miami where he has superior teammates. Were his stats ay better even? Obviously you can always make a case for him.

Not sure about Dirk's regular season. I didn't even know he was in the discussion necessarily. But a lot of those guys are always in the discussion and unless they impact the season in  a dramatic way they aren't going to get as much love. You need to get the 1 seed, lead the league in scoring, break some records etc. to really stand out. As Fafnir said above I think Howard probably fits in this category as having a stand out year

Dirk and Lebron basically finished where people thought they would or maybe even worse.

Their defense carried them to the number one seed, that had more to do with their entire rotation and thibs than Rose.

[CelticG1]

Derrick Rose: 2010-2011 MVP



He has a long way to go, yet.

I don't even remember the last regular season MVP to win an NBA championship that same year. Maybe Duncan or Shaq? I consider a curse for whatever team's player get's that award

but everyone knows that Rose wasn't really the MVP.  It always should have been Dirk or Lebron.  They are the two most valuable players in the league and it isn't like they didn't have the stats to win.  The Chicago media started pumping Rose up early and it just caught on, but he is not the MVP and everyone knows it.

I think Rose deserved it. He carried that team to a number 1 seed with Boozer and Noah both missing significant time due to injury.

I don't see what Lebron did during the regular season as that impressive. He won more games with his Cav's team than he did with Miami where he has superior teammates. Were his stats ay better even? Obviously you can always make a case for him.

Not sure about Dirk's regular season. I didn't even know he was in the discussion necessarily. But a lot of those guys are always in the discussion and unless they impact the season in  a dramatic way they aren't going to get as much love. You need to get the 1 seed, lead the league in scoring, break some records etc. to really stand out. As Fafnir said above I think Howard probably fits in this category as having a stand out year

Dirk and Lebron basically finished where people thought they would or maybe even worse.

Their defense carried them to the number one seed, that had more to do with their entire rotation and thibs than Rose.

Yeah that's true. I think he kind of won it by default. But he did carry that team offensively and like I said they did have injuries and especially the injury to Boozer who was supposed to be his number 2. They still needed to score to win games and they weren't holding teams to 50 points.

I think Howard could have been right up there but I don't see what other guys did that was so special to leap frog Rose.

[angryguy77]

Apparently , LBJ has finally "ARRIVED" and is now the NBA's golden haired boy .  Should the Refs make a call against him they will surely feel the rath of Stern .

LBJ has taken Kobe's crown . A happy NBA now all for one and one for all.

Just being LBJ is worth 10 points to the HEAT , becasue he is going to get at least 5 or more calls every game he shouldn't or that a average NBA player doesn't get or benefit of the doubt calls everytime.

So with that said , EVERY TEAM that plays the HEAT starts basically 10 points in the hole , becasue of the REFS bias towards his play.....rewards him with every close call...

So...there you have it , the deck automatically stacked against the MAV's.

Maybe good Karma earned by the unselfish play of the MAVS team will prevail .  

 

that foul they called on his 3 that lead to a 4 point play was ridiculous.
I see that go uncalled a lot. Would have been nice if Rose would have gotten a few calls as well.

However, the Bulls have no excuse for collapsing. Whenever the Heat intensified their d, the Bulls wilted. Seems like great D was not the only thing Thinbs brought from Boston.

[Fafnir]

Apparently , LBJ has finally "ARRIVED" and is now the NBA's golden haired boy .  Should the Refs make a call against him they will surely feel the rath of Stern .

LBJ has taken Kobe's crown . A happy NBA now all for one and one for all.

Just being LBJ is worth 10 points to the HEAT , becasue he is going to get at least 5 or more calls every game he shouldn't or that a average NBA player doesn't get or benefit of the doubt calls everytime.

So with that said , EVERY TEAM that plays the HEAT starts basically 10 points in the hole , becasue of the REFS bias towards his play.....rewards him with every close call...

So...there you have it , the deck automatically stacked against the MAV's.

Maybe good Karma earned by the unselfish play of the MAVS team will prevail .  

 

that foul they called on his 3 that lead to a 4 point play was ridiculous.
I see that go uncalled a lot. Would have been nice if Rose would have gotten a few calls as well.

However, the Bulls have no excuse for collapsing. Whenever the Heat intensified their d, the Bulls wilted. Seems like great D was not the only thing Thinbs brought from Boston.

Thib's line ups weren't great, he needed to go offense defense last night at times.

But Chicago's roster ties his hands in many ways. They only have one two guard who spaces the floor at all, and Korver has limitations that keep him from being the answer there.

They are a quality two guard from being right there with Miami.

[LB3533]

If Chicago's big 3 could have played better, they would have been right there with Miami too, without that quality SG.

[Phil125]

Was it the toe or was Boozer totally worthless in this series.

If he can't score on Anthony and Bosh then the Bulls have some long term trouble ahead.

[wahz]

This post isn't very timely now, but Id love a few comments to it if I got so lucky.

What in heck was the deal with Chicago's player rotations? Boozer AND Noah were both sitting...that wasn't normal for Chicago at all. Boozer might sit at times late because of defense but Noah too? And Korver sat too much also. No one out there to spread the Mia d. Now if that all wasn't weird enough, in the Dallas OKC series, why were Ibaka and Perk sitting so that Dallas could do whatever they wanted underneath? Collison was doing fine, and Ibaka's stat line looks poor but Collison wasn't exactly scaring anybody underneath... Did Ibaka get hurt early? It just felt like the wrong guys were on the floor for OKC and Chicago quite often in many of the games.