Oden a Celtic? (merged threads)

[Evantime34]

would this officially end the discussion of Dwight Howard in 2012?

Nope.


If Oden plays well enough, sign and trade. 

If Oden plays well enough and is healthy, I'd rather have him then Howard. 

That would be playing more then well enough.

That would have to be playing like one of the top 2 C in the league.



I do think that's possible if healthy. 

He wouldn't need to be better then Howard next year for me to rather have him.  I believe Oden has the potential to be significantly better then Howard.  He is bigger and has a much more varied offensive game.  Not too mention younger.  I do think there is a high probability that any time Oden will blow out a knee and be done forever, but he also might not.  Big Z had a lot of earlier leg issues that he got over and a very long productive career.

I would take Howard over him.


Right now, Howard is the top C in the league.  He is entering his prime.  He has already proven to be a centerpiece for a team that appeared in the finals. 


Oden, after what would be on healthy season, still has to many questions marks. 

That's not to say a healthy Oden is a slouch. IMO healthy he is the second most athletic center in the league and the third best overall.

[Moranis]

would this officially end the discussion of Dwight Howard in 2012?

Nope.


If Oden plays well enough, sign and trade. 

If Oden plays well enough and is healthy, I'd rather have him then Howard. 

That would be playing more then well enough.

That would have to be playing like one of the top 2 C in the league.



I do think that's possible if healthy. 

He wouldn't need to be better then Howard next year for me to rather have him.  I believe Oden has the potential to be significantly better then Howard.  He is bigger and has a much more varied offensive game.  Not too mention younger.  I do think there is a high probability that any time Oden will blow out a knee and be done forever, but he also might not.  Big Z had a lot of earlier leg issues that he got over and a very long productive career.

I would take Howard over him.


Right now, Howard is the top C in the league.  He is entering his prime.  He has already proven to be a centerpiece for a team that appeared in the finals. 


Oden, after what would be on healthy season, still has to many questions marks. 

That's not to say a healthy Oden is a slouch. IMO healthy he is the second most athletic center in the league and the third best overall.

I certainly have no problem with that position and it is more then reasonable, for me I'm a big risk, big reward kind of guy.

[Who]

Yeah, I would be happy to take a risk on Greg Oden.

An MLE contract is all the C's can offer and I am comfortable with that level of risk given his talent level. I'd do that deal. I'd risk the 2012 cap space for someone as talented as Oden (especially when on such a cost effective contract).

[stylo617617]

Yeah, I would be happy to take a risk on Greg Oden.

An MLE contract is all the C's can offer and I am comfortable with that level of risk given his talent level. I'd do that deal. I'd risk the 2012 cap space for someone as talented as Oden (especially when on such a cost effective contract).

well my theory is this  .unlike the 2010 FA class the 2012 class is not nearly as loaded theres dwight howard & everyone else even so if we sign oden to the MLE for 2 years we'll still have plenty of money to sign dwight (if the cap stays the same we'll have 20-23 mill in cap left after we sign oden that year) if dwight goes to l.a or brooklyn we can sign young talent like OJ mayo etc. & & if oden proves to be healthy we can extend him & build around the rondo.jeff.myo.oden nucleus

[kozlodoev]

if we sign oden to the MLE for 2 years we'll still have plenty of money to sign dwight

We'll also probably have only 3 starters (of a total of 4 players under contract), and no cap space. Yuk.

Oh, and we'll have to renounce any Bird rights we have.

[RJ87]

I'm down for the Oden gamble if the opportunity presents itself. He can be good if healthy. 2 microfracture surgeries aren't promising but look at Kenyon Martin - he still found a way to be serviceable. And of course, Amar'e. He's still a beast (at least on the offensive end).

[chambers]

ALl his 3 major injuries were different parts though right?

1 foot problem

1 broken knee cap

1 knee ligament?

They're unrelated right?

[CelticsGuy34]

for the full MLE...sure not a bad risk

anything above 7 mil is not worth it at all, hes way to big a risk

[bfrombleacher]

Jermaine O'Neal plus some throw ins for Oden?
Will they want Big Baby? It seems like a good fit for everyone  since they don't have a solid backup for their bigs, Baby wants a bigger role and we get Greg Oden.

[Lucky17]

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/05/paul_allens_vacation_continues.html

On Oden: "You know how much we have invested in Greg and we still believe in him. We're still in discussion mode of a couple options we have with him."

Miller went a step further regarding Oden, reaffirming comments he made during the season.

"What I said was if Greg continues to do all the things that are expected of him, we would tender him the offer," Miller said. "And I still feel that way. So far, he definitely is. He's working very hard."

As for when Miller and the Blazers begin working equally hard to find a new GM, well, that remains to be seen.

[SHAQATTACK]

No more OLD or Broken players. This team is a revolving door of hospital cases as it is.

Lets not add more crippled players .

D12 + CP3 = Banners

[bfrombleacher]

No more OLD or Broken players. This team is a revolving door of hospital cases as it is.

Lets not add more crippled players .

D12 + CP3 = Banners

And Chris Paul is not broken...?

Getting Dwight would take a lot. A lot.

[Trifecta]

No more OLD or Broken players. This team is a revolving door of hospital cases as it is.

Lets not add more crippled players .

D12 + CP3 = Banners

And Chris Paul is not broken...?

Getting Dwight would take a lot. A lot.

80 games played this past season for Paul.. He missed half the year the season before that but he's recovered well. But I agree getting Dwight is a long shot at this point.

[bfrombleacher]

No more OLD or Broken players. This team is a revolving door of hospital cases as it is.

Lets not add more crippled players .

D12 + CP3 = Banners

And Chris Paul is not broken...?

Getting Dwight would take a lot. A lot.

80 games played this past season for Paul.. He missed half the year the season before that but he's recovered well. But I agree getting Dwight is a long shot at this point.

So isn't Oden our best bet at a good center?

[steve]

At least 10 other teams would want to take a risk on Oden,   

So I have a feeling that what people think will land Oden is probably going to be slightly more.